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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:55 pm

The Th13teen baggage adjustments are more acceptable. At least it ties in with the theme, although some new signage is needed as that gaffer tape doesn't send the right impression.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:02 pm

Yeah it just looks really unprofessional and looks as if it was a last minute decision by AT. 
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:06 pm

The fact it looks so temporary makes me feel hopeful this is not to stay...
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Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:13 pm

Hopefully it'll change next season if this season is very successful for Merlin.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:19 pm

Wicker Man has now been added to the Resort Map in the Alton Towers official app in preparation for the theme park opening this Saturday. The update also shows the re-opening of the Mutiny Bay to Katanga Canyon Path, as well as showing the path beneath Wicker Man’s lift hill which was open during 2017’s Fireworks spectacular. One tree path, which was open throughout 2017, appears to have been removed suggesting it will not be open for 2018.

Could this update indicate we’ll be seeing the full 2018 Resort Map released shortly?

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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:27 pm

I imagine the rest of one tree path could be used for staff access which is a shame as it would have provided some nice views from the side of the ride. I'm happy to see the path under the lift Hill being used! Some good views looking downwards on the ride should be found there.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:03 pm

I have looked for the app on the Apple App Store, but it seems to be gone. Is this right?
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Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:05 pm

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I have looked for the app on the Apple App Store, but it seems to be gone. Is this right?

It seems to be rolling out the update gradually so it's showing for some people but not others. I'm sure everyone will be able to see it in the next couple of days :)
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:11 pm

At the moment, weather isn't looking very good for opening weekend :( https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2657407
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Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:21 pm

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At the moment, weather isn't looking very good for opening weekend :( https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2657407


At the moment, the biggest factor will be the cold, as it’s currently only showing a small amount of snowfall early on Saturday morning, which won’t have any impact on the park opening. If anything, the cold temperatures early in the morning may affect ride availability, but it all depends on exactly how cold it gets.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:54 pm

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Smiler313 wrote:
At the moment, weather isn't looking very good for opening weekend :( https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2657407


At the moment, the biggest factor will be the cold, as it’s currently only showing a small amount of snowfall early on Saturday morning, which won’t have any impact on the park opening. If anything, the cold temperatures early in the morning may affect ride availability, but it all depends on exactly how cold it gets.

Nemesis, Galactica & (I assume Oblivion as it's B&M) are not supposed to run if it's below 3C, as the low temperature affects the performance of the brakes.  You can bet that Alton Towers will take no chances for obvious reasons.  Weather issues are the one time the park & staff will be specific about a ride closure / stoppage, as guests can complain as much as they like about the weather as it's beyond the parks control.  
 
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:03 pm

^I'm not so sure, I've ridden Oblivion & Nemesis when it's been snowing in the past. It needs to be colder than 3°C to snow.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:57 pm

Air used to run in the snow during FHT. It’s Rita and Th13teen that have issues with the cold I believe, due to the use of magnetic breaks I presume. 
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:54 pm

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^I'm not so sure, I've ridden Oblivion & Nemesis when it's been snowing in the past. It needs to be colder than 3°C to snow.

Well it is in the ride assistant (as it was in 2002) manuals for both Air & Nemesis that they can cease operation of the temperature falls below 3C.  Whether this is for rider comfort as opposed to safety is not clear, but other weather conditions such as extreme high winds are listed too (which clearly is for safety / to avoid the risk of a train not completing the circuit).  I am fairly sure I've been on Nemesis at Winter Weekends some years ago when it was probably below 3C.  
The mechanical brakes on a B&M ride use similar materials to those used on railway train brakes - and trains run in temperatures much lower than 3C.  (We'll leave how reliably they run open to debate though!)  In theory, magnetic brakes should not be affected by the weather as there are no moving parts on the actual brake fin (if it's static, e.g. the magnets on the first drop of Th13teen).  Of course if the fins have to be raised / lowered, e.g. Rita's launch, then moving parts that may not like the cold are present.  
 
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:27 am

I would guess that closing in cold temperatures is more for guest comfort, they also (at Thorpe anyway) have a pre-recorded announcement if it's raining that the ride may be uncomfortable.

Phantasialand say they can run Taron (Intamin LSM) and Black Mamba (B&M) at -10c! Although that was during their Winter Season so they may have changed grease/wheels/brake elements, something that's not really possible just for the odd day of cold weather. 
 
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:35 am

I remember visiting in FHT a few years ago when there was snow on the ground and temperatures struggled to get above freezing, yet Nemesis and Air were operating.

The biggest issue, if it is as cold as is forecast, will be getting the rides open first thing. Once they’re warmed up and running everything should be fine, but it’s getting them open in the first place that will be the struggle. Of all the rides at the park, I imagine The Smiler and Rita are the ones at real risk from not opening.

Whatever happens, it’ll be good to get back on the park :)
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:05 pm

So, with the weather predicted to be 1 Celsius all day, with snow forecast and wind gusts in excess of 30mph will anything be open at all?

I'm going on Saturday for the first time in 15 years, on my own, I'm already nervous, then I saw the weather forecast!
 
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:10 pm

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So, with the weather predicted to be 1 Celsius all day, with snow forecast and wind gusts in excess of 30mph will anything be open at all?

I'm going on Saturday for the first time in 15 years, on my own, I'm already nervous, then I saw the weather forecast!

At the moment there isn't any snow forecast for the park on Saturday (there is a small chance it could snow overnight but not anything like enough to affect park opening)

Ride availability will be largely dictated by how cold it actually gets. If the forecasters are right then they may struggle to get some of the rides open.

However, I am optimistic that Wicker Man will still open, given that Europa Park manage to operate Wodan over the winter.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:11 pm

Since it is opening day and Wicker Man opening day, I suspect half 8 is a good time to get to the park for ERT.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:17 pm

PhNx Survivor wrote:
Since it is opening day and Wicker Man opening day, I suspect half 8 is a good time to get to the park for ERT.

I'll be there from half 7 :P
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