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Re: The Smiler - General Discussion

Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:46 pm

I'm so surprised about how many people saying The Smiler was so smooth this year. It certainly wasn't when I rode it in April! Roughest ride I've ever had on it.

Very disappointing to hear that some of the projectors in the queue are switched off, and even more disappointing about the effects on the Marmalizer not being used. With the single rider issue, I actually think it'd be better if they just left empty seats than waste time shouting right down the queue to try and fill those seats. It probably wastes more time than it's actually worth. The way the the queues are with The Smiler these days, I don't even consider riding without a Fastrack sadly.
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Re: The Smiler - General Discussion

Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:23 pm

The Wicker Man effect is starting to happen with the queue times for The Smiler. They are reducing in length (still long) but I certainly feel that I don't wait as long as I used to. A little bit of knowledge and planning also comes into play when navigating the park, but I wouldn't buy a fastrack for £10 as I think it is too much to queue the other side of the stairs.

The projectors were off last week, which was extremely disappointing. The lift hill screens were also off on the Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday I was there. Baggage seemed to be ok last week, although it would be better to have the hold open again.

The ride needs some love though :(
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Re: The Smiler - General Discussion

Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:41 am

Wait has anyone noticed how they’ve completely destroyed the main queue? Not only did they take out a very important single rider queue, they now expect the general queue and a special fast track (idk much about it I think it’s the disabled but they came in at the bottom of the stairs?) to merge without staff. It was really weird and made little to no sense when I was there.
 
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Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:15 am

saw-x-smile wrote:
Wait has anyone noticed how they’ve completely destroyed the main queue? Not only did they take out a very important single rider queue, they now expect the general queue and a special fast track (idk much about it I think it’s the disabled but they came in at the bottom of the stairs?) to merge without staff. It was really weird and made little to no sense when I was there.


It’s now been changed so that Fastrack and RAP users both use the same queue from the start, due to the “abuse” some RAP users were getting from people in the main queue for what they interpreted as queue jumping.
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Re: The Smiler - General Discussion

Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:11 pm

Dan wrote:
saw-x-smile wrote:
Wait has anyone noticed how they’ve completely destroyed the main queue? Not only did they take out a very important single rider queue, they now expect the general queue and a special fast track (idk much about it I think it’s the disabled but they came in at the bottom of the stairs?) to merge without staff. It was really weird and made little to no sense when I was there.


It’s now been changed so that Fastrack and RAP users both use the same queue from the start, due to the “abuse” some RAP users were getting from people in the main queue for what they interpreted as queue jumping.

I was in the queue line once when they had it as the RAP just coming in and it looked so suspicious. There was no signs or anything and they just stood confused so it looked really like queue jumpers. I’m glad they fixed this issue! (It was a pretty stupid one tho imo)
 
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Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:31 pm

Dan wrote:
saw-x-smile wrote:
Wait has anyone noticed how they’ve completely destroyed the main queue? Not only did they take out a very important single rider queue, they now expect the general queue and a special fast track (idk much about it I think it’s the disabled but they came in at the bottom of the stairs?) to merge without staff. It was really weird and made little to no sense when I was there.


It’s now been changed so that Fastrack and RAP users both use the same queue from the start, due to the “abuse” some RAP users were getting from people in the main queue for what they interpreted as queue jumping.
Just out of interest, what is RAP?
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Re: The Smiler - General Discussion

Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:51 pm

Ride Acces Pass. It's used by people who aren't able to use the main queue or aren't able to queue for long periods of time due to a disability. Important to note that it is not Fastrack though, as even though the pass holder doesn't have to wait in the main queue line, they still have to wait a certain amount of time before they can use the pass after each ride they go on.
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Re: The Smiler - General Discussion

Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:54 pm

RAP is Ride Access Pass. They're designed for those who have a disability and are unable to use the regular queuing system.

The passes come with a time sheet, such that the person goes to the RAP entrance and the staff member marks a return time for them, which will typically be the currently stated queue time. They then return at that time and are given, along with their helpers/group, as direct access as possible to the next available ride.

It's essentially virtual queuing, but with a lot more paperwork.

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Re: The Smiler - General Discussion

Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:47 pm

Robert.W wrote:
Ride Acces Pass. It's used by people who aren't able to use the main queue or aren't able to queue for long periods of time due to a disability. Important to note that it is not Fastrack though, as even though the pass holder doesn't have to wait in the main queue line, they still have to wait a certain amount of time before they can use the pass after each ride they go on.


Thanks!
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Re: The Smiler - General Discussion

Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:53 pm

TPC wrote:
RAP is Ride Access Pass. They're designed for those who have a disability and are unable to use the regular queuing system.

The passes come with a time sheet, such that the person goes to the RAP entrance and the staff member marks a return time for them, which will typically be the currently stated queue time. They then return at that time and are given, along with their helpers/group, as direct access as possible to the next available ride.

It's essentially virtual queuing, but with a lot more paperwork.

Edit: Ninja'd :sus:

It's actually the other way round, as you get on the ride they mark a time for your next ride on something else. This only applies to certain rides aswell, not too sure on the ones at Alton, I'm pretty sure at Chessington it's Dragon's Fury, Vampire, Gruffalo, Tiny Truckers, Scorpion, Kobra and Tiger Rock though.
 
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Re: The Smiler - General Discussion

Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:14 pm

ChessingtonSam wrote:
TPC wrote:
RAP is Ride Access Pass. They're designed for those who have a disability and are unable to use the regular queuing system.

The passes come with a time sheet, such that the person goes to the RAP entrance and the staff member marks a return time for them, which will typically be the currently stated queue time. They then return at that time and are given, along with their helpers/group, as direct access as possible to the next available ride.

It's essentially virtual queuing, but with a lot more paperwork.

Edit: Ninja'd :sus:

It's actually the other way round, as you get on the ride they mark a time for your next ride on something else. This only applies to certain rides aswell, not too sure on the ones at Alton, I'm pretty sure at Chessington it's Dragon's Fury, Vampire, Gruffalo, Tiny Truckers, Scorpion, Kobra and Tiger Rock though.

Well that way around of doing things makes more sense in terms of managing it!

Glad The Smiler now has the RAP queue managed and not just dumped into the regular queue. Can imagine the interactions at the merging point have the potential to be pretty bad with the wrong group in the main queue line.
 
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Re: The Smiler - General Discussion

Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:43 pm

Justin wrote:
The Wicker Man effect is starting to happen with the queue times for The Smiler. They are reducing in length (still long)  but I certainly feel that I don't wait as long as I used to. A little bit of knowledge and planning also comes into play when navigating the park, but I wouldn't buy a fastrack for £10 as I think it is too much to queue the other side of the stairs.

The projectors were off last week, which was extremely disappointing.  The lift hill screens were also off on the Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday I was there. Baggage seemed to be ok last week, although it would be better to have the hold open again.

The ride needs some love though :(

Lift screens were off for me on Tuesday this week too. Great intense ride though.  Not even sure what the projectors are?!  I went on it twice in a row no queue whatsoever. 
Couldn't help thinking about the poor victims of the accident on that first hill climb though, it's the first time I've ridden it since that terrible day.
 
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Re: The Smiler - General Discussion

Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:27 pm

Did it four times on Wednesday, not at all rough for me, really enjoyed it.

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