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Re: Galactica - General Discussion

Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:48 pm

I do kinda wish I'd given it a go in 2016, but now as the VR is just not as good, as well as the extra long queue for the VR rows, I'm just not bothered about it to be honest. I do love the new soundtrack and extra bits of theming that came with Galactica, although I'm glad they've reintroduced actual onride photos again. 
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Fri May 11, 2018 9:41 pm

Finally time for me to weigh in on this VR idea.

Oh boy, I am not coaster purest, BUT when the staff tighten your goggles, they fall off, and the same happens for those around you, I have to wonder if VR is ever going to be successful.  So on Day two of my visit, I rode it without the VR, and it was much more fun, I still liked the Stargate elements, and the themeing of the station, but the VR head sets themselves are a problem.

Talking of the themeing, I may have seen too much sci-fi, but the video in the station, might as well be followed by a movie about the AI going wrong, as it falls into a wormhole it didnt know about, its sci-fi cliche in the extreme. It would not work for the general public, but if you are going to do what looks alot like a Star Gate, get Richard Dean Anderson and Amanda Tapping in, to do a Stargate SG-1 theme.

Over all the ride is better without the VR, and seeing it go out half empty, because people favour the VR (yes I said it) it's tragic, when you are standing in a long queue.
 
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Re: Galactica - General Discussion

Mon May 14, 2018 6:38 pm

Hi all, been in the park today.

Went on Galactica and one of the ride ops told me that they are planning to remove the VR on the ride by the end of the season. Has this been mentioned before? If it does happen, I see it as an improvement.
 
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Mon May 14, 2018 8:59 pm

I wouldn't be surprised to see it completely go. It's been a complete failure. Sooner it's gone the better, in my opinion.
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Mon May 14, 2018 9:06 pm

I could see this happening with the reception it has had over it's life span. I would say they would remove it all in the closed season and 2019 would be VR free. It's more of a hassle now for staff and a nightmare for separating guests between those wanting to wear the VR and those who don't. Whilst it would be a shame to see it go, if it means improving the throughput, I wouldn't mind seeing it leave. 

Like others have said, if it was to leave, i would prefer the theming, music and general idea still be kept. It's more than we ever had with it being Air. 
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Mon May 14, 2018 10:18 pm

I have never understood why they haven’t split the queue entirely to VR and non-VR with a station dedicated to each half. I know batching could be an issue but it’s likely that you could use 3 trains, 2 NVR and 1 VR.
 
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Mon May 14, 2018 11:13 pm

I think the issue would be how the train enters the station as coasters of this kind do switch between the stations of which you board and exit. It would be a hassle for the ops to turn on the vr and turn off for those in the vr and non vr station. The idea has been discussed in the past and it wouldn't really work looking more in depth. The current system they had I think is the best they could have done but its unfortunately still not good enough.
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Re: Galactica - General Discussion

Mon May 14, 2018 11:22 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if it will get a re-theme/re-name next season.  
 
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Mon May 14, 2018 11:29 pm

ROYJESS wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if it will get a re-theme/re-name next season.  


Market it as a whole new ride? ;)

I do think it will just be the Vr removal and anything associated with the headsets
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Tue May 15, 2018 7:55 am

Fingers crossed it will be rethemed back to Air!
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Tue May 15, 2018 8:08 am

If the VR goes completely from Galactica, I wouldn't be suprised. The only part of the VR content that was good was the lift hill, the rest of it seemed a blur and it has murdered Air's capacity. We have already seen the photo booth and four rows of VR removed, so I can't imagine the last three rows of VR have a long life left. 
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Tue May 15, 2018 10:54 am

I think my partners reaction to the ride photo sums it up really ;'You look like you're having so much fun without the headset, whereas I'm just trying to keep it on my head'.
Removal of the VR would help the rides loading and dispatching times out, as well as sparing staff expenses. However I do think it would be a shame to get rid of the themeing altogether, as it works really well with the ride.
 
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Tue May 15, 2018 4:24 pm

DeadJack5 wrote:
ROYJESS wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if it will get a re-theme/re-name next season.  


Market it as a whole new ride? ;)

I do think it will just be the Vr removal and anything associated with the headsets

I don't like to repeat things that Staff members tell me due to they often don't seem to materialise. I was after a certain Galatica souvenir, I've been told that it was no longer available and will not be so this season.  But watch out for next season.  There was a hint of a possible re-theme/name  ;)
 
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Tue May 15, 2018 4:27 pm

ROYJESS wrote:
DeadJack5 wrote:
ROYJESS wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if it will get a re-theme/re-name next season.  


Market it as a whole new ride? ;)

I do think it will just be the Vr removal and anything associated with the headsets

I don't like to repeat things that Staff members tell me due to they often don't seem to materialise. I was after a certain Galatica souvenir, I've been told that it was no longer available and will not be so this season.  But watch out for next season.  There was a hint of a possible re-theme/name  ;)


That wasn't a dig at you by the way, we all know Merlin love a good re-theme! :)

Yeah, I understand where you and the staff memeber are coming from, although we should take what staff say with a pinch of salt, like you've said yourself. I guess we shall see.
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Re: Galactica - General Discussion

Tue May 15, 2018 5:19 pm

Oh yes, the Galactica theming is nice, just not the actual VR. And talking of pictures, who is buying a picture of themselves wearing a VR headset?
 
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Tue May 15, 2018 6:01 pm

To be honest, I much prefer Galactica than AIR theming-wise, so I’m with Jack on this one. I haven’t actually used the VR yet, and from the reviews it’s been getting, I don’t plan on it either.
 
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Re: Galactica - General Discussion

Tue May 15, 2018 6:23 pm

I got a picture on my DigiPass, mostly for the slight absurdity of a photo of me me clinging onto to the headset whilst riding.

Have only ridden with VR once and the tracking was off by about 10 degrees to the right and then the headset tried to fly off on the first turn. Redeeming feature was that it was about 6c when I rode, so it somewhat felt like the coldness of space.

If it's quiet give it a shot. Chances are like most VR coasters it will disappear soon. Just hope they don't realise other places have an additional charge to ride VR.
 
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Re: Galactica - General Discussion

Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:02 am

I liked the concept of AIR much more than Galactica. By now, I find Space rather cliche and overdone, but the simple but appealing idea of flying is so much more investing, to me. Galactica as a concept only really works when it is paired with the VR. Outside of the station and that one portal, there are no other signs of theming to be found. But flying worked well without conditions, because no matter how good the theming is around the ride, one will always feel like they're flying due to the style of attraction. Normally, I ask for a lot of story and theming for rides, but this one worked without, kinda like Oblivion, where minimalist went a long way. I think the space theme only existed as to help market the VR, and now that that has proven to be a bust, I wouldn't be surprised if the we see a new retheme. And, if I'm honest, I don't think I'll be too sad. I'm ready to see what new iteration of this ride's theming they'll make, but I hope they don't tear it down because without the VR, it is still an amazing attraction.
 
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Re: Galactica - General Discussion

Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:38 am

I think the one vital mistake Merlin made with Galactica wasn't the addition of VR, surprisingly enough, but is actually Galactica itself. Had Merlin gone down the same path as the likes of Europa Park, they wouldn't be in this situation where they have a "re-themed" ride that has been a complete failure. 

Take Eurosat – CanCan Coaster and Eurosat – Coastiality, two new attractions opening at Europa Patk this summer. These use actually just one rollercoaster, but riders choose which attraction they want to experience and each attraction has its own dedicated station and themed trains (one with VR). Had Alton Towers gone down this route, and used one station to house the VR attraction, still using Air's track and trains to "host" the attraction, at least if it had failed, they could easily have removed it without any trace that it ever existed, and Towers could have easily said that it was always intended to be a "limited time" experience.

But typical Merlin prioritised short term gain over long term viability, and as a consequence are now stuck in a situation where if they want to move forward and create yet another brand for the ride (or revert it back to Air), they will have to publically admit that their supposedly pioneering ride experience has been a total failure, and to make things worse they could have made it work, if only they hadn't succumb to that stupid "worlds first fully dedicated VR rollercoaster" title.
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