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Knott's Berry Farm

Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:38 am

Ok so knotts are getting a new spinnig coaster its a mack kind though. Its the same kind as Euro Mir at Europa Park.
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Length: 1410' 9"
Height: 62' 4"
Drop: 39'
Inversions: 0
Speed: 37 mph
G-Force: 3.3

Check some pics here http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/vi ... 371#339371

However i have some concerns how do the trains spin if there are several cars on one train?
 
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:59 am

Yes. The trains will differ from Euro-Mir in that they will free-spin and not have motorised spins at certain points of the ride.

This ride will be nowhere near as high or fast as Euro-Mir itself, indeed it is going to be a very different rollercoaster experience.

However being Mack, I am sure we can expect a very good, innovative family coaster!

Can't wait to see pics of it in action.
 
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:02 am

Yes. The trains will differ from Euro-Mir in that they will free-spin and not have motorised spins at certain points of the ride


So on euromir it only spins at certain points?
Is that lame or isn't it

Either wat knotts seriously need a new coaster. They have 2 family coaster jaguar which is extremely painful and some other coaster which i can't remeber the name of it
 
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:16 am

I wouldn't say it's lame, although I haven't ridden the ride itself (yet!). However, Dan's thrust god knows how many pics and videos my way of it and it looks absolutely fantastic, both with the coaster itself and thanks to the building it's built around - It looks like it gives a fantastic experience :D
 
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:27 am

Either wat knotts seriously need a new coaster. They have 2 family coaster jaguar which is extremely painful and some other coaster which i can't remeber the name of it


Well Knotts have a fairly respectable lineup. They have Xcellerator, Silver Bullet, the once brilliant Ghostrider, Montezooma's Revenge, a Boomerang and Jaguar. The general feeling I get is that Knotts should stop adding coasters and concentrate on the park's atmosphere which is said to be pretty bad at the moment.

But from what I've seen of construction pics, the construction area looks to pe pretty well landscaped and themed. The terrain aspect should be interesting as it's something we've never really seen with a spinner before
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:47 pm

"iriderides101" wrote:
Yes. The trains will differ from Euro-Mir in that they will free-spin and not have motorised spins at certain points of the ride


So on euromir it only spins at certain points?
Is that lame or isn't it

Either wat knotts seriously need a new coaster. They have 2 family coaster jaguar which is extremely painful and some other coaster which i can't remeber the name of it


Well actually it isn't lame, as if the cars free-span throuought the ride, you would get severe whiplash injuries as there are some very high G Forces at certain places. On Euro-Mir itself, you free spin through the lift-off section, then the cars lock (so you are forwards or backwards) and plummet down the drop before shooting up, the cars then spin 180 degrees, and then you do the rest of the course in the opposite direction to what you took the first drop with.

I assure you that if you rode the attraction you would agree that free-spinning on Euro-Mir would be disaster. Indeed last season one car on the train accidentally locked with passengers facing outwards from the track and they got neck injuries and had to be taken to hospital for checks. The ride also has numerous banked helixes taken at high speeds.

Most Maurer Sohne spinning coasters have a top speed of between 30 and 40mph, Euro-Mir does 50mph and has a G Force of 4. It is nowhere near the same as a standard free spinning rollercoaster.

The reason the new coaster at Knotts Berry Farm will be able to free spin is because it is only 2/3 the height of Euro-Mir and will have much lower speeds and G Forces which means passengers health will not be put at risk.
 
AstroDan

Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:29 pm

There's one or two pictures of the track for the new ride on RCDB, and it's safe to say this is entirely different to Euro-Mir. The track is nowhere near the same.
 
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Xcelerator test video (VERY fast launch)

Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:01 pm

Apprantly the first launch was 117mph listen to the noise the drum is making and how fast it clears the top hat, that would be very very painfull if you were on the ride.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2b6OaI0BXM

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Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:02 pm

Woah.. groovy.

You can hear and see at the end of the launch when the catchment releases from the car, it slows slightly for the top hat. You can really feel it slow when riding... imaging what it would be like launching that fast at the maximum speed!!!

Love that ride though. My first launch coaster, ridden it 8 times in a row without leaving my seat :P.
 
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Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:03 pm

That's if you were still awake after that launch
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Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:54 pm

omg... that tophat at maximum speed must actually kill people at that speed, i wanna go on xcelerator, looks good

whats its proper speed?

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Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:58 pm

Around 80mph
 
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Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:14 pm

1hotni66a (2 weeks ago)
painful? try scary..i rode this once without the lapbar...just the seatbelt


Huh? You can ride it with a seatbelt :?
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Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:19 pm

"Lauren" wrote:
1hotni66a (2 weeks ago)
painful? try scary..i rode this once without the lapbar...just the seatbelt


Huh? You can ride it with a seatbelt :?


Yeah hes just some nob head who think hes funny who really needs a slap :)
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Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:21 pm

Surely the ride op's would have made sure you have the lap bar down, if it's a safety feature, which it is. He may have meant that he didn't waer the belt...? :?
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Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:51 pm

"Ryan Kingdaka" wrote:
Surely the ride op's would have made sure you have the lap bar down, if it's a safety feature, which it is. He may have meant that he didn't waer the belt...? :?


The ride wont move without the lap bar down and if it did, someones been messing with the proxy switches :)
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Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:53 pm

HMM thats does not look like it was going at 117mph
When i was at knotts in the summer it was making exactly the same noises although it was closed :( never got to ride
 
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Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:57 pm

"iriderides101" wrote:
HMM thats does not look like it was going at 117mph


That's cause it was something like 117kmph. :)

Matt :D
 
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Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:00 pm

"Matt 125""][quote=""iriderides101" wrote:
HMM thats does not look like it was going at 117mph


That's cause it was something like 117kmph. :)

Matt :D
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Look at the speed it goes over the top hat, that isnt normall and would hurt you :-s
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Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:02 pm

I thought I heard at the end from that man that it goes 80mph.... Hmm. Why would they make it so fast it would hurt you though?

Matt :D

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