SW8 Speculation and Discussion

Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:50 pm

Makes sense to keep the sound level down

Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:59 am

swfcjambo wrote:
Has anyone else looked at the construction so far, and noticed that there appears to be a lot of woodwork above where the track bed is?almost as if they're planning to add a roof over the track?

They are. The plans show that there will be sound tunnels along the first drop.

Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:10 pm

Regarding the discussion on the lift system, upon further investigation I've noticed Gold Striker has an identical platform at the top of its lift, which IS for the chain return. TheCodeMaster (who lives in California not far from CGA) also confirmed that Striker has an identical concrete structure, once again, for the lift motor.

I know the planning application is saying 'LSM lift', but I'm merely speculating based on the evidence put before me IRL, and comparing to other GCIs.

Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:12 pm

^I completely agree with you. I think people are misunderstand the silent magnetic lift hill proposal. I believe it will be like the smiler, in that it is chain driven but will have silent, magnetic anti-rollbacks.

Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:35 pm

Another point brought up in the construction thread is the German flag on top of the lift hill. I think this could either be related to the person/people behind designing the ride or it's technology, or the people involved in manufacturing the ride.

The manufacturers I could find which are based in Germany are:
Art Engineering (magnetic brakes only)
Gerstlauer
Mack
Maurer
Zierer (magnetic brakes only)

All of these manufacturers have used magnetic systems in their rides before, so any of them are possible really. Merlin has worked with all of these companies before, with the exception of Art Engineering.

Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:16 pm

Someone I spoke to had the idea that the German company involved are in fact not a coaster manufacturing company at all. The three countries' companies I'm expecting to be involved from it are

USA: Great Coasters International (ride manufacturer)
Germany: This company right here, which have the exclusive marketing rights for GCI in Europe and therefore would be the company that actually made the deal for SW8
UK: Merlin Magic Making, Alton Towers Resort.

Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:43 pm

That same company seems to work for Mack too! Guess that explains Wodan...
And yeah, the magnetic anti-rollback would make more sense since it is usually the anti-rollbacks that make more noise than the chain itself. Does make me wonder: if there's no launch, will it have a USP? As many have mentioned before, I don't think it needs one - get rid of the tagline at the end of the Smiler advert and it still works effectively at selling the ride.

Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:08 pm

I think the LSM launch is another Washing Machine element...

Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:11 pm

Thrill Nation have posted this image to Facebook, showing what looks to be the SW8 Big Six QR code location!

Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:53 pm

Haha! Wondering when someone would post it! Found that weeks ago, it's cleverly hidden, away from all the viewing windows so not somewhere people are inclined to look. I haven't scanned it yet, probably going to next time I'm there with Towers recently stating they're 'anticipating to have Galactica reopened very soon'. Let's hope they've sorted out whatever issues they had!

Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:58 pm

Capt. Barnacles wrote:
Haha! Wondering when someone would post it! Found that weeks ago, it's cleverly hidden, away from all the viewing windows so not somewhere people are inclined to look. I haven't scanned it yet, probably going to next time I'm there with Towers recently stating they're 'anticipating to have Galactica reopened very soon'. Let's hope they've sorted out whatever issues they had!

And yet you didn't share its location. How selfish :lol

I am right in assuming that all this talk of it not being a launch is because of a piece of wood being located where a normal chain lift motor thingy would be?
Here's an interesting idea, what if it uses both a chain and launch. A chain to get the car to the less steep bit and then a launch? Is that possible?

Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:40 pm

Wouldn't want to ruin the fun of finding it

The chain theory is now coming from two pieces of evidence we have before us, the platform at the top of the lift utilised for a chain return gear on other GCIs, and the concrete structure halfway down the lift, which again, is present on other GCIs and is the foundation for the lift motor housing. I'm no longer basing my theories on words written on a planning application so much as the real life structures put before us and comparing it to other coasters made by GCI. I'm aware I'm defying the popular theory at this point and some close friends already know I'm 100% willing to admit I'm wrong if it's not what I believe

Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:37 pm

Probably already spotted this, but Merlin have issued a trademark for the name "Rise of the Demon".

Here's the link.

Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:39 pm

Jacko11111 wrote:
Probably already spotted this, but Merlin have issued a trademark for the name "Rise of the Demon".

Here's the link.

Wasn't this for Derren Brown's Ghost Train?

Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:40 pm

Jacko11111 wrote:
Probably already spotted this, but Merlin have issued a trademark for the name "Rise of the Demon".

Here's the link.

Rise of the Demon has already been confirmed to be for Derren Brown's Ghost Train and has already opened and has nothing to do with SW8

Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:52 pm

Ah fair enough. Did not cover DBGT much so would not know ](*,)

Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:20 pm

It'll still be interesting to watch out for any other trademarks Merlin create though

Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:15 pm

Based on previous attractions, I wouldn't anticipate any trademarks for at least a month minimum, and even then I'd anticipate the trademark will be somewhat difficult to find.

Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:16 pm

I guess... but if any happen to be found, it could give us a better idea of SW8's theme

Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:47 pm

I'm still leaning towarda it being a Wicker Man theme (maybe linked to the IP, maybe not) with the trade mark already having been filed.

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