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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:23 pm

As I've said before, I dislike IPs. When I visit Alton Towers I want to see Alton Towers, not some random things from the media. If they were to come up with an original theme, I would love it whatever it was, but IPs (although they're a crowd puller and are great for business) take away a bit of the uniqueness and magic from the park for me. It does appear the Gangsta Granny ride is happening, but I certainly hope it's just that one ride, not a second area covered by an IP.

However the great thing about CBeebies and Walliams as IPs is that they are the biggest you can get. CBeebies just is British children's television, nothing comes before it. And David Walliams (discounting Roald Dahl who's not so current anymore) is number 1 in British children's literature. So as much as I would prefer an original theme by a long long way, I understand why IPs are a thing and to be fair these are the best out there.
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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Tue May 01, 2018 2:53 pm

Was at the Towers last Monday and the operator for the Ray tank talk in Mutiny Bay was saying they are planning to expand Sealife next year with either Penguins, Otters or Jellyfish and was asking for feedback on which people would find most interesting.
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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Tue May 01, 2018 2:58 pm

Oh, interesting! Pretty good idea as long as it's in addition to a CCL retheme though. Out of those three choices though... that's tough! Jellyfish would fit in the most with the theme, but penguins and otters sound much more interesting!  
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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Tue May 01, 2018 4:01 pm

I agree it would be a great expansion as at the moment the Towers has a real lack of indoor attractions for poor weather conditions and would also be good for a year round attraction as I know they opened it for their closed season events this year.

Though I agree the jellyfish would be the most true to Sharkbait's theme, I really enjoyed the penguin enclosure at SeaLife London as the critters brought a lot of energy and excitement to the aquarium.
 
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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Tue May 01, 2018 4:12 pm

Personally I'd like to see Otters or Penguins somewhere but I'd also agree with Robert that it should be an addition as well as the supposed Gangsta Granny ride.

But it sounds like it's not gonna be the only 2019 project if they're still deciding what to add now whereas we already know that a 2019 project has been in the pipeline for a few years now.
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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Tue May 01, 2018 5:33 pm

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Personally I'd like to see Otters or Penguins somewhere but I'd also agree with Robert that it should be an addition as well as the supposed Gangsta Granny ride.

But it sounds like it's not gonna be the only 2019 project if they're still deciding what to add now whereas we already know that a 2019 project has been in the pipeline for a few years now.

I agree both for a 2019 year would be ideal. If GG ride is also a retheme or re-use of the CatCF building then I think we could well see both next year.

More indoor attractions are sorely needed at the Towers.
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 8:42 am

Penguins would be AMAZING (charismatic megafauna ftw!) but would they have enough space for a decently sized enclosure for them or Otters? I'll be honest, I've not been in Sharkbait (it's usually too full of children for me) so don't know what it's like in there.
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 11:25 pm

vikkimoo wrote:
Penguins would be AMAZING (charismatic megafauna ftw!) but would they have enough space for a decently sized enclosure for them or Otters? I'll be honest, I've not been in Sharkbait (it's usually too full of children for me) so don't know what it's like in there.


They could easily have enough room if they expanded into some of the adjoining units... with the way the F&B outlets are going I’m sure they’d shut down Eastern Express to put some larger enclosure in
 
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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:25 pm

So.. we know that The Dungeons are coming to the Towers.. but what would people realistically like to see happen in the park?

Personally, like many other people, I would like to see something happen with the previous Ripsaw site. With all the new concepts Merlin could choose from, it would be nice to finally have a ride back there.

If not there, then as some people on other forums have been saying, that the Submission area could be used for another small addition..

However with saying this, I do think that the Dungeons will be the only addition for a specific group of people.. what are people’s thoughts?
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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:58 pm

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Personally, like many other people, I would like to see something happen with the previous Ripsaw site. With all the new concepts Merlin could choose from, it would be nice to finally have a ride back there.


Ripsaw was a fantastic compact ride that had a great impact on that area (and my shoulders/spine).
What made it so wonderful was the audience that it drew, and that those not on it, could enjoy it.
I always remember a buzz around there when eating my fish and chips #prayforchips

I hope they can install some more flats, but I do hope they can have the same ability to stop guests walking straight past and watch a cycle, to be entertained by it.
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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:15 am

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PhNx Survivor wrote:
Personally, like many other people, I would like to see something happen with the previous Ripsaw site. With all the new concepts Merlin could choose from, it would be nice to finally have a ride back there.


Ripsaw was a fantastic compact ride that had a great impact on that area (and my shoulders/spine).
What made it so wonderful was the audience that it drew, and that those not on it, could enjoy it.
I always remember a buzz around there when eating my fish and chips #prayforchips

I hope they can install some more flats, but I do hope they can have the same ability to stop guests walking straight past and watch a cycle, to be entertained by it.


The amount of places I hear than Alton needs flats, whether it be on here, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube.. Merlin has surely got to have noticed what people are saying?

I agree completely, the excitement of looking up at people’s reactions as the water came closer and closer was not only entertaining to the riders but also for the spectators.

I’ve noticed with some of the newer rides Merlin install that the ride has to be a big flat ride, with a ton of theming.. I don’t know if this is true in every theme park but it just seems that way. I’d much rather go back onto a submission type ride than DBGT for example.
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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:30 am

I think Nemesis needs some minor attention. Maybe not on the ride side of things but maybe some refurbishments around certain areas of the queues and ride area. It's quite an old one now but still a favourite of many. Still very smooth running after 24 years.
 
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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:55 am

I wonder when Alton Towers will start teasing 2019. I know the Enchanted Village Expansion is between 2019 and 2021 but I don't think that's enough to compliment the ticket sales for the regular season so either CCL retheme or new flat rides in Ripsaw's spot or I've spotted on the map, if you build a brand new fried chicken co. on Submission's site and use the old building for a compact coaster like S&S 4D Freespin or a Skywarp or a compact Mack Coaster
 
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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:52 pm

Alton Towers probably won't start teasing 2019 for a while, I don't think. I will be curious to see how they advertise their new Stargazing Pods though. I really don think think there is any way they can make them appealing without also completely misleading pleople into thinking it's going to be some fancy magical experience when it's really not. 

God only knows what's happening with CCL and / or Alton Towers Dungeon... will will any of it even happen?
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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:39 pm

I don't see CCL turning into Dungeons for the 2019 season. There's far too much external work that would need to be done. It took them 6-7 months to redo just the inside theming of Bubbleworks and nominal external work.

But the trademark application really does suggest they want to add it fairly soon, seeing as it was put in at the same time as the pods.
 
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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:41 pm

There is a Sea Life expansion already confirmed for 2019 as well as a heavily rumoured CatCF retheme as well as the Stargazing pods as seen from the planning application.

I'll doubt Sea Life will need planning permission for an extension as it would probably come under the GDO and if there's a CatCF retheme then most of the changes will be indoors so that won't need planning permission.

Also MMM Studios is litterally round the back of CatCF and the area CatCF is completely closed off so it's possible they could be preparing parts of the retheme without making the public aware. 
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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:29 pm

Oh wow. Is there any articles about this news because I really want this to be the video for tomorrow
 
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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:35 pm

The SeaLife expansion was talked about a while back (right at the beginning of the season) with staff asking visitors wether they'd be interested in penguins, otters or jellyfish I think were the animals mentioned. Good to hear that it seems to be going ahead as planned! 

Got to agree about CATCF, Bert. With the MMM studios right there onsite, they could have been working on the interior of the ride for quite some time already, so all that would be needed is the exterior changed after the season comes to a close. I think it now seems unlikely that we'll see a full CCL retheme now though, seems like a lot of work for one closed season. They could possibly do it for 2020, with it being the parks 40th anniversary.
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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:55 pm

Ah so maybe just Charlie and the Chocolate Factory will be redone. Question is what will come in because IP just seems a waste for a few seasons because Charlie closed through the end of its licensing with Roald Dahl Foundation so something original like a new updated Toyland Tours or something else original and also Twirling Toadstool to return too
 
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Re: 2015-2019: Possible Developments?

Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:15 pm

Going off the subject slightly, it would be nice to see some of the figures and props from Charlie auctioned off, if allowed, raising money for Magic Wand!
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