BTW nothing was in the place of nemesis (the pictures show the monorail on the other side of Thunder looper) 'The new beast' which was in the place where ripsaw and air now are, was removed in 1997 which means that 'nemesis' and 'the NB' both were in thunder valley for 3 years.
Also here are my points that oblivions drop is 180ft long
1. Griffon and Sheikra (200 ft) both go at around 70mph at the bottom of the drop, but oblivion (180ft) goes at 68mph, and 1mph per 10ft does work out (also including the larger train size)
2. The vertical to flat curve on oblivion is huge (that is why you don't get crushed at the bottom) but if you go on Griffon or Sheikra the bottom of the drop is much tighter and therefore it is much more intense.
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