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Re: SW6 Construction

Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:22 pm

Well, let's not forget that there has been no official confirmation of an Intamin...
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Re: SW6 Construction

Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:21 pm

Wow haven't been on here on ages. This ride is really taking shape. Cant wait till it opens.
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Re: SW6 Construction

Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:27 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be Gerstlauer, this could be a new concept from them. It may explain the lift hill structure as this dosent look like what Intamin would do.

This wound mean the ride would be bad in my opinion. Im not a great fan of Euro Fighters but there other coasters don't look to bad.

The only thing that makes me think of this of a new concept for Gerstlauer is the ride having a large sweeping helix. The section within the woods does remind me of a bobsled coaster.
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Re: SW6 Construction

Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:45 pm

Leigh not all Intamins have bolt fittings, yes I agree it could be Gerstlauer but it could also be Intamin, just take a look at Tornado at Bakken, it has bi-track, and also the same type of footers.

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I have to give TT and ATA benefit of the doubt and until it is PROOVEN 100% that it isn't Intamin, I have to believe their information.

Afterall Tornado shows that Intamin do have Bi-rail with them sort of footers.
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Re: SW6 Construction

Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:51 pm

Well exactly. TT and ATA wouldn't just go saying things willy-nilly. I 100% believe that they had no reason to doubt their source (whatever this mysterious source was), but there's nothing to say that this reliable source wasn't misinformed. But it's by far the best we have.
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Re: SW6 Construction

Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:49 pm

The suports on the plans match the new supports that Intamin are using on their new coasters which apprantly make the ride quieter than using the traditional Intamin suports. Also as it is a new suport style we havn't really seen these used in a ride with a traditional lift hill yet
 
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Re: SW6 Construction

Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:42 pm

Yes, I agree.
Seeing as this has been stated a 'world's first' ride it is very likely to feature new-style footers and supports; it could be a prototype.
I am enjoying watching the stages of construction so far and cannot wait for the big-part; the track! I'm convinced that track may arrive sooner rather than later beause it was around a year ago Saw: The Ride's first piece of track was erected.
Don't get me wrong, Project Dylan started construction at a different time though it is almost plausible that track will arrive soon. :)
 
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Re: SW6 Construction

Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:08 pm

The site does not look ready for track yet in my opinion. The helix trench is just a cutout in the mud. That is going to need rendering with concrete. I am wondering how they are going to do this as it is a circular shape and not that wide. Also the trench for the pre lift run, surely it is going to need drainage or some sort of landscaping before the track goes in? Still a lot to do, but it is looking sweet!
 
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Re: SW6 Construction

Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:22 pm

According to Dan at ATA, "rumour through the grapevine says that track could be on site within a week".

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Re: SW6 Construction

Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:41 pm

I've got to admit, I'm starting to wonder whether we're going to see a Gerstlauer ride now.

Thinking about the elements, and what the themeing is meant to be looking like; I wonder whether it'll be a cheaper rollercoaster model; but with higher quality themeing.
 
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Re: SW6 Construction

Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:51 pm

"Johno" wrote:
I've got to admit, I'm starting to wonder whether we're going to see a Gerstlauer ride now.

Thinking about the elements, and what the themeing is meant to be looking like; I wonder whether it'll be a cheaper rollercoaster model; but with higher quality themeing.


I would say that's very possible. But, at the moment I'm going to go with what we know at the moment, which is that it's almost certain it's Intamin.
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Re: SW6 Construction

Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:59 pm

It will be a cheaper model Intamin...well, cheap until you add in the world first element and theming.
The other elements look like a mini Megalite - drop into a right hand helix followed by an airtime hill under the lift. All the hallmarks of a newer Intamin (see Intimidator 305 or whatever it's called).
 
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Re: SW6 Construction

Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:49 pm

The back Trench was even deeper when we went on Sunday.

Track in a couple of weeks could mean a Weekend visit to Towers soon :)

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Re: SW6 Construction

Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:09 am

"IanBassi" wrote:
The back Trench was even deeper when we went on Sunday.


If that's true then it's definitely got to be a tunnel.
 
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Re: SW6 Construction

Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:23 am

Yes it is a tunnel. Or cut and cover trench, whatever you want to call it. Shows it clearly on the plans. We need to be a bit careful with what trench we are referring to though. The helix tunnel I believe is what people are calling the back trench. The pre lift trench is not deep enough to be a tunnel and already has footers in it. There is a lot of confusion over this on the web at the moment.
 
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Re: SW6 Construction

Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:40 am

How its looking in my opinion is that:

The front trench will just to be a normal trench containing the track for the pre-lift section.
The back trench is definitely starting to look like it will be some sort of tunnel.

Interesting stuff, its September and we still know very little about the ride!
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Re: SW6 Construction

Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:11 pm

The plans don't show any of the track inside the building, but they do show the track coming out of the building into the spiral. If the back trench was a tunnel would that still be considered to be inside?
I don't know enough about planning regs to be certain, but I would have thought if the track was in a tunnel it wouldn't be shown above ground in the plans, and the plans would have to show the tunnel as a building. The planning permission applies to what is seen above ground, right?
Some of the plans had height indicators, they didn't all make sense to me first time I looked, I'll take another look now that we can see some trenches and they may make more sense now.
 
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Re: SW6 Construction

Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:12 pm

This ride gets more and more intriguing!
 
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Re: SW6 Construction

Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:34 pm

What they would do is show the track that is underground as a dotted line. This would be used for more detailed plans. The plans that don't have to be released to the public.

We have not been shown all the plans as Alton have worked hard to keep this ride a secret. They only have to show how the ride will impact anything above ground so we cant rule out a tunnel section.

Im loving the fact that this ride will be a complete surprise. I really dot mind who manufactures this ride, as who ever builds it, the ride looks to have some of the Alton magic of old.
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Re: SW6 Construction

Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:30 pm

The plans definitely do show the backwards helix in a trench and not a tunnel, so from that you have to assume that it will only be a trench. Saying that though the trench that they have dug back there seems rather deep so I guess it could possibly be a tunnel. I do think it will be a deep trench though, which will be fine in my opinion.
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