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SW6 Ride Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 12:18 am

Welcome to the SW6 ride discussion topic. As the name suggests, this topic is solely for discussion surrounding the ride itself. For example, this could include manufacturer or element discussion.

As mentioned in the sub-forum guidelines, this topic will be heavily moderated by the team, particularly in time of increased forum traffic as construction continues. As a result, please ensure that you are contributing to ongoing discussion, and not simply posting for the sake of it. Any posts which are considered to be irrelevant to the ongoing discussion will be deleted.

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The sub forum and the topics within it are currently being run on a trial basis. You may find topics are reorganised or renamed or removed altogether over time.

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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 10:37 am

I'm not sure if this will be "worlds first but I have an idea for the start.

Look at the first image on the TT SW6 site:

[url=http://sw6.towerstimes.co.uk/plans/" target="_blank]http://sw6.towerstimes.co.uk/plans/[/url]

This, if not comfirmed already, could be the station buildin and the queue line.

The ride would start on the higher part. It would be a stand-up, and have a vertical drop, not like Blivvy, but like Detonator at TP

[url=http://media.photobucket.com/image/detonator%20thorpe%20park/LiamSAFC/Detonator.jpg" target="_blank]http://media.photobucket.com/image/deto ... onator.jpg[/url]

It would drop you through the queue, blocked off from sight, obviously, and bring you into the ride.

This would also fit in with this article, though it's unconfirmed that it's AT:

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2009/mar/29/my-life-travel-brendan-walker-rollercoaster" target="_blank]http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2009/m ... lercoaster[/url]

Here's a little picture I put together:

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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 10:55 am

That article is really interesting, that could be quite an interesting feature for the ride to have...

Thanks for posting that :D .
 
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 11:10 am

Recently I skimmed back through some of the pages of the older topics, as I knew there would be nuggets of information that get lost in a sea of spammy replies. Right at the start of the topic, I found this.

"The Rollercoaster ride could incorporate a Switch / Tilt mechanism where a section of track the length of the train tips, tilting the train to a 45 degree angle. The train is then released, possibly backwards, and drops underground by its own weight. It is then held at a dead end, from which it is then released forwards, before diving off through a tunnel. "

I'm not saying it's new information, pretty much everything in there has been speculated anyway. By this, I meant to say that in their own words they have described in fairly explicit detail what could happen in the mystery section.

I think its just refreshing to refer back to orginial sources, anyway, as you can get lost in what's confirmed and what isn't.
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 11:26 am

"Jon" wrote:
"The Rollercoaster ride could incorporate a Switch / Tilt mechanism where a section of track the length of the train tips, tilting the train to a 45 degree angle. The train is then released, possibly backwards, and drops underground by its own weight. It is then held at a dead end, from which it is then released forwards, before diving off through a tunnel. "


I can imagine that, and it would be quite good.

A 90 degree drop would be even more pwnage though [/hopefulthatitstrue]
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 11:29 am

The ride enters the building at quite a height, and the building itself is very small in perspective, so in my opinion there are two options for what will happen:

1. A simple backwards tilt, either by the track physically tilting (like Gravity Max) or a switch track (like Everest)

2. A drop tower section of track. This would be a world first I believe, and would be a fantastic experience. The drop itself doesn't even need to be huge, like the drop ride in the London Dungeon. This fits in with the article that has been previously posted.

I'm going for the drop tower section myself. This would also fill AT's lack of a tower ride!
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 12:47 pm

I hope it isn't too extreme!
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 1:15 pm

I was pondering the idea that the train drops in the fashion of a drop tower and then that article really suggested that it could be the answer. You would however, need some sort of launch mechanism to get round that last helix because a drop tower element would lose all the rides potential energy.

I also think you enter the final switch back quite slowly and leave it at a walking pace (it would probably act as the final break run, as there really is no more ride track after this element.

Its getting very exciting.
 
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 2:15 pm

I think the quote 'riders will have to brace themselves in an upright position' is a possible clue.
Could it mean a stand up type coaster?.
 
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 2:36 pm

Just stumbled on this a Vekoma thrill lift concept

[url=http://www.coastersandmore.de/rides/eas04/eas6e.shtml" target="_blank]http://www.coastersandmore.de/rides/eas04/eas6e.shtml[/url]
 
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 4:09 pm

"billyrae" wrote:
I think the quote 'riders will have to brace themselves in an upright position' is a possible clue.
Could it mean a stand up type coaster?.


No - it most likely means sitting up straight.
 
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 4:17 pm

I'm still sticking by my original idea that there will be a drop section in the station building at the end of the ride. I think it will be a lot easier to do than a tilt mainly because of the limited space available in the building, a drop is just straight down. The track just suddenly dropping would also be more unique in my opinion, and certainly more unexpected.

So you could enter the building at a high level, there could then be some effects and something could happen which causes the track to suddenly drop down, as if if the structure is collapsing. There could then be a backwards launch out of the building before the train goes around the helix which is possibly underground, and that is then the end of the ride.
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 5:59 pm

In another topic I've posted an article asking a few theme park related people their favorite theme parks. The interesting thing is the answer of Brendan Walker, who is the "thrill engineer" frequently linked to this ride around here.

Brendan Walker
Roller coaster expert and 'thrill engineer'


Brean Leisure Park in Somerset is a quintessential British seaside amusement park. It's fairly unknown, but has one of the scariest ghost trains in Europe. It's called Terror Castle and was designed by one of the owners, Richard Cadell, who is the face of children's TV show Sooty and a member of the Magic Circle [the worldwide organisation for magicians]. It has references to The Exorcist and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and features animated figures, superb sound effects and things dangling in your face. It's terrifying.

This could be nothing, I'd just thought I'd post it since it seems to be a bizarrely obscure park and ride to mention. He obviously has an interest in dark rides and theming, could any of the things mentioned above give a hint to SW6 or the mysterious indoor section?
 
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 7:30 pm

^I have been to Brean leisure park recently, its not that far away from me. The Ghost train to me had nothing that really stood out particularly (although riding on my own in a car was quite a daunting prospect). The park itself really isn't up to much however.
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SW6 Construction

Sun May 03, 2009 7:37 pm

Im going to throw a spanner into the works here... Some new track has been spotted at the B&M plant as seen below:

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The guys over at coaster force have made a suggestion that this may have something to do with Altons new coaster.

Any thoughts :wink:
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Re: SW6 Construction

Sun May 03, 2009 7:59 pm

Alton Towers would never get away with those colors, and the intended theme! It's location will call for more 'muted' colors at the very least.

I'd put my money on either black or brown.
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Re: SW6 Construction

Sun May 03, 2009 8:04 pm

Ignore the yellow track, thats been sitting around for awhile, its this red track that has recently started to roll out.
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Re: SW6 Construction

Sun May 03, 2009 8:41 pm

That track is nothing to do with Alton because it's at B&M's manufacturing plant in Ohio, USA. If it was for Alton it would be in their manufacturing plant in Switzerland.
 
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 8:43 pm

Track posts moved from construction topic to ride discussion :D
 
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Re: SW6 Construction

Sun May 03, 2009 9:24 pm

"havaska" wrote:
That track is nothing to do with Alton because it's at B&M's manufacturing plant in Ohio, USA. If it was for Alton it would be in their manufacturing plant in Switzerland.


Not necessarily, it all depends on the amount of orders on the books at any one time.
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