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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Wed May 27, 2009 12:28 pm

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The ride probably will have Rita style restraints as it could lower the height restriction.

And, lets face it, the OTSR's on Rita only really have a negative impact if you're 6'2" or over (tall).


yur i'm 6'3 and its bl**dy awkward getting onto rita for me. Id hate to be any taller as I think id give up on her. But to be honest its more to do with the closeness of the seats together than height.
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Wed May 27, 2009 4:46 pm

I may be wrong...and I may not know any secret backstory stuff...but just because ATA posts it, doesn't mean its fact. Until I see AT or Intamin themselves release a Press Release, I still believe this to be a Vekoma, Premier, or Mack attraction (more-so Vekoma). Sure, it could be Intamin, but that could also just be somebodies hopes writing a news article.

Chances are I'll be wrong and later today they'll announce it on the AT website, but until then, I'm stcking with my belief...lol.

And for the sake of me throwing it out there, I hope it's not an Intamin...
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Wed May 27, 2009 6:41 pm

I don't know why some people are so anti-Intamin... Piraten, EGF, Kawasemi etc. are some of the worlds top rated coasters so why should Intamin be a problem? OK they sometimes age not as well as B&M etc. but overall I think Intamin is a pretty respectable choice for AT.
 
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Wed May 27, 2009 7:07 pm

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I don't know why some people are so anti-Intamin... Piraten, EGF, Kawasemi etc. are some of the worlds top rated coasters so why should Intamin be a problem? OK they sometimes age not as well as B&M etc. but overall I think Intamin is a pretty respectable choice for AT.


Completely agree...

Intamin are, in my opinion, the best manufacturer we could expect in that area of the park with the restrictions of space and noise. This will cause more of a stir overseas than a worlds first Gerstlauer or Vekoma, I just hope it lives up to expectations...
 
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Wed May 27, 2009 8:10 pm

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Sure, it could be Intamin, but that could also just be somebodies hopes writing a news article.

If I'd written it based on hope, I would've put "Alton Towers building another B&M, I wish". :P

Although for the record, considering I was dreading a Gerstlauer, I'm pretty happy with another Intamin.
 
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Wed May 27, 2009 10:22 pm

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I don't know why some people are so anti-Intamin... Piraten, EGF, Kawasemi etc. are some of the worlds top rated coasters so why should Intamin be a problem? OK they sometimes age not as well as B&M etc. but overall I think Intamin is a pretty respectable choice for AT.


I never said I was anti-Intamin, I just said I hope this attraction is not an Intamin as I believe Vekoma would be a better fit for this attraction. And although I am not a fan of intamin in general, they do have a few great rides. EGF being one of my favorites, is obviously an Intamin.

However, I believe they are highly overrated and often 1-trick ponies. Kingda Ka? Sure it's the tallest and fastest 'wait-in'line' ride...but there's the problem, you spend 4 hours waiting in line for a 30 second experience...just isn't worth it in my mind. Rita...POS compare to others out there, Speed Monster for instance and of course Blue Fire. Sure it wasn't supposed to be the biggest and the baddest, but I think more could have been done by another manufacturer in that space. But, this isn't about Rita or Intamin in general so I will trail off here...lol.

Also Dan, no disrespect, and I obviously don't know your source, but I still believe this to not be an Intamin until I see a PR. :p
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Wed May 27, 2009 10:35 pm

"Steve K""][quote=""AstroDan" wrote:
Also Dan, no disrespect, and I obviously don't know your source, but I still believe this to not be an Intamin until I see a PR. :p
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That's a good point. No disrespect to you at all Dan, but are we not allowed to know your/Towers Times' source on Intamin being the manufacturer?
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Wed May 27, 2009 10:40 pm

lol, no offense taken. If I haven't stated where the information has come from, that usually means I can't. If people take what I post with a pinch of salt as a result, then I say fair enough - everyone's entitled to their own opinions. :)
 
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Wed May 27, 2009 10:47 pm

It is 100% Intamin, I've been told of one of the sources and there's absolutely no doubt for me, and I belive that there are multiple sources saying Intamin, that's surely good enough confirmation! And anyway the plans are pretty good confirmation that it's Intamin. Yes you can have your own opinion, but it is Intamin! :)
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Wed May 27, 2009 10:56 pm

I certainly 99% believe it. I'm just curious as to who spilled the proverbial beans.
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Wed May 27, 2009 11:13 pm

I have been told by two people who I would say know a thing or two about coasters and have various contacts and they also say its an Intamin ride. Also I have been told its NOT a megalite coaster. Maybe a new track/coaster type by Intamin? :?:
 
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Wed May 27, 2009 11:23 pm

Well now as it seems that the information is coming from a variety of source and respected members of the community I am much more confident that it is Intamin.

The track is standard Intamin track so I can see new type of cars.
I cannot see it being a Motobike coaster. The layout looks too big and nothing like a motobike layout.
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Thu May 28, 2009 11:42 am

I don't understand this, Intamin aren't the best for the job?
Intamin are the kings of air time, there Hypers, Mega-Lite and Pre-fab woodies respected as the best in the world, for airtime I think certainly, T-Express, El Toro, Balder, SROS/Bizzaro, Expedition Everest, Kawasemi, Piraten, Millenium force?
There quality for airtime!
I heard a one trick pony in reference to there launches, it seems a lot of people don't look past there launch coasters because these are the record breakers, its not that Intamin aren't capable of making a launch coaster with an interesting layout, look at Stormrunner for instance!
In reference to whether Intamin are capable of the special section. Certainly!
Over the years, Intamin has established the most comprehensive range of roller coasters of any manufacturer in the world, fully living up to there name of the Pioneer of amusement rides, surely boasting one of the widest catalogues and probably the best manipulators of Hydraulic and Lsm technology!
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Thu May 28, 2009 12:17 pm

The only thing i'm worried about is that i've heard Intamin aren't exactly the best for safety. :|
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Thu May 28, 2009 12:20 pm

i think that the ride has the possibilty to be an Intamin wing rider coaster which looks pretty cool but i've never been on one! :shock: or it could be a gerstauler (is that spelt right?) like SAW at thorpe park :?
 
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Thu May 28, 2009 12:22 pm

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The only thing i'm worried about is that i've heard Intamin aren't exactly the best for safety. :|

Really? Whereabouts?
 
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Thu May 28, 2009 12:28 pm

i do hope it's going to be faster than rita! :twisted: the thing i like most is when you go down a big dip really fast and you laugh really hard cause it hurts your stomach! :mrgreen: hehe...

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Well now as it seems that the information is coming from a variety of source and respected members of the community I am much more confident that it is Intamin.

The track is standard Intamin track so I can see new type of cars.
I cannot see it being a Motobike coaster. The layout looks too big and nothing like a motobike layout.


I hope it isn't a motorbike coaster cause it would look really odd wih the theme and it would feel like the E.T ride at Florida a bit! lol! :shock:
 
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Thu May 28, 2009 1:12 pm

I cannot see it being a Motobike coaster. The layout looks too big and nothing like a motobike layout.


It's not a motorbike coaster and therefore the layout would have to look nothing like a motorbike track. Yes, some parks choose the motorbike covers to sit on the chassis but Alton could have anything they wanted, including broom sticks like those seen in the old Gloomy Wood plans.
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Thu May 28, 2009 1:58 pm

"Islander""][quote=""Invie" wrote:
The only thing i'm worried about is that i've heard Intamin aren't exactly the best for safety. :|

Really? Whereabouts?[/quote]
Intamin's are rather notorious for their less than perfect safety record. In this country, a girl died a few years back on Hydro at Oakwood when she was thrown out at the top. Granted, it was partly the park's fault for not checking the restraint correctly but a well-designed ride should never let a car leave the station that has any possibility of the restraints opening. A similar thing also happened on the only other ride of it's type at Knott's Berry Farm where someone else died.

In terms of rollercoasters, a man was thrown out of a S:RoS at SF Darien Lake in 1999 for similar reasons to the above. That by the way is by no means a definitive list of restraint failures on Intamin rides:
Wikipedia list of Intamin accidents
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Compare that with the safety record of B&M, where no-one has ever died due to ride malfunction, and the restraints have never failed. The only B&M fatalities I can think of have been pre-existing medical conditions and people in ride areas.

After the weekend meet I've sorta had a partial change of heart regarding the importance of theming. Though I would still like a thrill coaster you just have to look at Rita - it is one of the most thrilling rides in the park but is generally agreed to be a bad addition and certainy doesn't add to the atmosphere of the area simply due to the lack of theming. Despite not being a fantastic stand-alone coaster (as I believe Nemesis is) with massive amounts of theming, including a proper station building and various tunnels and effects on the (maybe indoor?) launch it could have become something quite special. Which is why I think this coaster even if the stand-alone coaster isn't very good could be up there with the Beemers as best ride in the park.

On the subject of the motorbike coaster, for those who haven't ridden Flamingoland's it looks like it shouldn't be comfortable and feel unsafe but it just doesn't! In terms of ride train design it is near perfect. I also still don't think a colleberation can be ruled out, I just don't see Intamin designing a drop section or a double-switchback if that's what it is. In which case I think it'll be Vekoma, an in-house design or some random hydraulics company, though the former would be preferrable.
 
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Thu May 28, 2009 2:14 pm

:shock: :shock: :shock: Now i feel wary bout goin on SW6 when it opens now! they have had quite alot of accidents all due to restraints etc. That one with the girl who's feet got amputated by a snapped cable is completely gross...

I think that at least 1 bad thing will happen with SW6 in the days it'll be open... :cry:

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