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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:31 pm

Yep, if there are some sort of labels on the track, then we will find out for sure who the manufacturer is. However I'm as sure as you can be without being certain that it is an Intamin, and just because some people on Coaster Force think differently isn't going to change my mind in the slightest.

But that's enough of the manufacturer debate.

"chrisdibben""][quote=""Rob" wrote:
...I really hope that the hole isn't just to house machinery, it would seem almost like a waste after all this excitement!


Remember that the track enters the building at roof level, so there's plenty of height for a drop without needing to go below ground. Whatever is going to happen it will need machinery below the lowest point of a drop.[/quote]
That's a good point and I hadn't actually thought of that, with the track entering the building right at the top, there should be just about enough room for a decent drop, the track might still have to go up a bit after it but it would all work out. As construction goes on then we will get a better idea of what's going to happen, but as I said before, we won't be finding out too much before opening day. I'm pretty sure they will construct the bit inside the station building during the closed season to ensure nothing is given away.
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Re: SW6 Ride Discussion

Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:29 pm

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Blue Fire has really brought them up to Intamin's level - they have shown they can easily match them at Intamin's own game.

I can see what your saying about Blue Fire, I think that model definitely matches Intamin. However it depends what you call Intamins game, I think a lot of people don't look past their launches because they are their best sellers, however Intamin's best rides are the one's with airtime.
Im hoping for an Intamin because looking at the layout, the forest section looks like it could boast some ejector airtime and sustained speed. I don't think anyone can quite match Intamin when it comes to that.
 
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:12 pm

Does look a little bit Gerstlauer to me... :?
Having a look at their other coasters, it looks a very similar track style...

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It's almost identical track type, however, I may be wrong...
 
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:17 pm

Well I was going to say it doesn't look much like Intamin.

Edit: After Sam.'s edit, it is similar to mega-lite track but there is a distinct difference in the size of the cross bars... :?:
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:31 pm

I would say it looks more like Gerstlauers track than Intamin, just on the cross sections of the beams between the rails.


But until confirmation there is no gaurenteed manufacturer.


Just looking through RCDB and at Speed: No limits (Oakwood) which has Bi-Rail track, and it is totally different to this track.
The tri-track how ever has the same cross sections.

[url=http://www.rcdb.com/2591.htm?p=10950" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://www.rcdb.com/2591.htm?p=10950[/url]
Gerslauer bi-track.

[url=http://www.rcdb.com/2614.htm?p=9813" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://www.rcdb.com/2614.htm?p=9813[/url]
Bi-track with SIMILAR cross sections, yet these on SW6's track look more round.



Intamin

Bi rail again SIMILAR cross sections.
[url=http://www.rcdb.com/1646.htm?p=18110" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://www.rcdb.com/1646.htm?p=18110[/url]

[url=http://www.rcdb.com/1635.htm?p=3835" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://www.rcdb.com/1635.htm?p=3835[/url]
Bi-rail that looks near enough the same as the track at towers.

[url=http://www.rcdb.com/1412.htm?p=3272" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://www.rcdb.com/1412.htm?p=3272[/url]
And again on Colossus.
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:41 pm

If you look at the end of the rail part of the track connectors, they are identical of those that Maverick has:

SW6:
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Maverick:
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Which makes me think it is definitely Intamin. I have also seen those rail connectors on other newer Intamin coasters such as I-Speed, Surf-Coaster (Sea World Australia)...
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:45 pm

Yes I agree on that nemesisiscrazy.

I think it is intamin.

But looking at THIS picture
[url=http://rcdb.com/4075.htm?p=22453" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://rcdb.com/4075.htm?p=22453[/url]

It does show that Gerstlaer use that aswell.

So we are still no closer.

I think we could be seeing.
Worlds first Re-Cycled coaster, it looks awfully like Black hole track haha. [/joke]
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:46 pm

There is no way from that one picture of the track you can tell who the manufacturer is, it could be Intamin, Gerstlauer, Mack or any other really. The difference in this bi-rail track to most other bi-rail track is that the diagonal bars are cylindrical and not square, and I've had a little look around and can't find any coasters with the exact same track style. With any luck there will be a label on some of the track with the manufacturers name on it, we'll just have to wait and see.
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:47 pm

That ATA photo shows track with box cross-sections and round diagonal braces.
Flight over the Mediterranean is one off the latest megalites, and it uses box-section for the diagonals as well as the straight cross struts. So the photo doesn't show a good match to megalite track... at first glance anyway. Time to look for more pics.
 
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:49 pm

Nemesis Crazy, SAW also has that style on the end of track pieces, does it not..?

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Edit : CJH beat me to it. :)
 
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:54 pm

It looks like Gertslauer to me, the diagonal pieces are much thinner than Intamin track.

Basically, like Khanage said.
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:58 pm

but look at the supports, they are the new INTAMIN box sections as seen on most of their new rides. :!:

also looking at the tracks shape (and the fact the two straights have 'odd cross ties') I think these tracks are the ones going in the 'secret' bit of the ride. The curve looks like the exit turn.

In fact one seems to have a alignment pin hole on the front of it. (brass lined to!)
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:59 pm

If it's Gertslauer, then I better stock up on the headache tablets in SAWs anything to go by. :P

Thanks for the photos Barryzola, some very intersting shots there. Though I can't upload any to the site myself, hopefully some one who can will be online to do so. Don't worry, we know you have'nt gone past any barriers or anything, have had a few walks along those trails myself before now. :D

Can someone go and stick a MACK label on one of the crates, then take a photo if they are passing please. :twisted:
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:01 pm

Worlds first... coaster with new design track to confuse the coaster fans. ;-)
 
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:03 pm

"Rob" wrote:
There is no way from that one picture of the track you can tell who the manufacturer is

I think I can.

SW6:
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Kawasemi:
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Too similar to be a coincidence, don't you think? ;)

Edit: Close ups to make it a bit clearer.

Kawasemi:
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SW6:
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:06 pm

So, we going with Intamin Mega Lite Coaster then?

Looks like it to me.
 
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:09 pm

I wish it was B&M just so its easier to tell who is making it!

The rotated picture above is now making it look closer to an Intamin. Hopefully, when some better pictures are released we will have a better idea.
Personally, I'd prefer Intamin over Gerstlauer. I'm not a fan of Gerstlauer's, I think Intamin are better rides.

Sam, have you looked at every picture of Intamin track? :P

Also, thanks to barryzola for those pics from the inside Abbey Wood.
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:21 pm

Yeah, I was very strong for Gerstslauer, but the signs are showing up now...

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..when I saw the Transfer track. So many similarities to another Intamin transfer.

EDIT: Dam! Someone beat me to it LOL :lol:
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:32 pm

I have just looked at pics of the ends of a Gerstauler rail and the bolt holes are exactly the same as the track in the car park. The holes are in the rail on Intamins while on Gerstauler they are protuding above
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Re: SW6 Construction

Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:51 pm

I've just spotted a pic of some track that perfectly matches the track in the carpark at AT.

Tornado at Bakken, built by Intamin.

Take a look at the photo here:
http://www.rcdb.com/4313.htm?p=22894

Round rails - check
Box-section cross pieces - check
Round diagonal struts - check
Track end connectors - check
4 bolts sleeves welded to the last cross piece - check

As far as you can tell from the photos, the box sections are about the same dimensions when you compate them to the diameter of the track. The SW6 diagonals are thinner, on the sw6 track, but that could be because it's a simpler curve than the piece from Tornado.

Comparing the track to Tornado I'm going with Intamin.
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