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SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:09 pm

As the previous topic was getting a little long, and now we know the manufacturer of the ride, it has been decided to start Ride discussion part 2.

As before :-

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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:18 pm

I was about to edit my last post in the last topic to add something to the end I just thought of and it got locked, I hope you don't mind if I post it again with added comment. :)

"Sir John Talbot" wrote:
Is this definitely a mega-lite. Can mega-lites be classed as family coasters?

It's definately a Mega-Lite, as I demonstrated in this post a few days ago:

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SW6:
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Kawasemi:
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Too similar to be a coincidence, don't you think? ;)

Edit: Close ups to make it a bit clearer.

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Kawasemi:
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I'd like to know now if it said anything else on the sticker. I think the King's Dominion coaster had "giga" written on it somewhere, and often the B&M deliveries say the type of coaster on it. Though I imagine, with the secrecy around this project, Alton wouldn't be so naive. Though they seem to have let the Intamin thing slip...
 
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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:39 pm

They may have let the intamin thing slip but they weren't gonna ask them to send it under like Brake Bros. or Burger King and they could hardly ask them to tape the plastic on with brown parcel tape :P
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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:46 pm

To everyone else Intamin will mean nothing. It wouldn't really matter to them who was manufacturing the roller coaster, they're more interested in the thrill factor which will in this case will not mean inversions. It's obviously that the lack of inversions that will allow them to call it a family coaster. Speed better be good.
 
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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:19 pm

Just to confirm, Piraten at Djurs Sommerland (Intamin Mega Lite) carries a 1.4m height restriction.
 
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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:59 pm

Yes but Kawasemi at Tobu Zoo Park has a restriction of 1.1 meters according to RCDB.

So I'm not ruling out the Mega Lite trains with T-Bars yet, I am just willing it to have them!
 
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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:11 pm

Maybe Intamin have developed a new type of trains or restraints which allow there to be a lower height limit?
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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:11 pm

Rita has that same "hole" on the transfer track, could be another rita?!


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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:12 pm

I'm still hoping that this will be a Mega-Lite, but I don't think we can say that it will 100% be a Mega-Lite just because the transfer track on SW6 is the same as that on Kawasemi. You'd need to look at the transfer track of other Intamin coasters, as there is a chance that the design of the transfer track is the same for other Intamin models.

If it is not a Mega-Lite, then it does include similar features to Mega-Lite's, such as the drop followed by a 270 degree helix and then an air time hill. It wouldn't surprise me if this was a new model of coaster by Intamin, which will include features seen on other models.
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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:14 pm

maybe a Micro-lite? :lol:
 
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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:19 pm

My theory is they need a light coaster design for the mystery section of the ride (drop section maybe) and the family model fits the bill.
 
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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:41 pm

I'm still trying to work out why its not the 3 tube style track (not a technical term of course).

Supposedly it's because theres less forces acting upon the track, but even so.
 
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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:44 pm

Unlikely, but maybe they used 2 rail track to try and make it look like a different track to Rita, just to ensure the general public doesn't get confused.
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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:46 pm

"James6" wrote:
Unlikely, but maybe they used 2 rail track to try and make it look like a different track to Rita, just to ensure the general public doesn't get confused.

Well, the GP don't have a hard time telling AIR from Nemesis...



...or do they? :?
 
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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:51 pm

Actually that's a good point, but the main bodies of Air and Nemesis are further away and the trains are completely different, assuming SW6 has Mega-Lite Trains, there not miles apart.

There also completely different colours whereas, probably even more-so after the retheme, Rita's and SW6's I could see being mistaken for the same ride.

It is however very unlikely that was the reason, and as you say Air and Nemesis aren't confused very often.
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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:03 pm

"Johno" wrote:
I'm still trying to work out why its not the 3 tube style track (not a technical term of course).

Supposedly it's because theres less forces acting upon the track, but even so.


Other Intamin mega-lites use a mix of the triple tube and just bi-rail sections. I could be wrong, but it makes sense that you only use as much metal as you need to make it structurally sound without over-engineering. We'll see some tri-track appear.
 
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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:10 pm

Intamin have 3 types of track. Bi-rail, tri-track and quad-track. The type of track used depends on what forces are acting upon the track.

Bi-rail is used in stations, breakruns, transfer tracks and generally places which are highly forceful. E.g. Rita's breakrun.

Tri-track is used when forces are too strong for the smaller bi-rail track. E.g. the majority of Rita.

Quad-track is only really used on launches.

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The track which has been seen so far looks to be for the pre-lift section or the transfer tracks. (Basically track which will not be put under much stress)

The type of track would be chosen for practicality, not for design reasons. As Tri and Quad track will be more expensive than the standard bi-rail track.
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DiogoJ42

Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:11 pm

Has everyone forgotten that the plans only showed bi-rail track?
 
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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:23 pm

"Diogoj42" wrote:
Has everyone forgotten that the plans only showed bi-rail track?

I'm sure there's some tri track on some of the cross-sections in the plans. I'm surfing on my phone at the moment so I can't check the images to say for sure which one.
 
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Re: SW6 Ride discussion Part 2

Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:23 pm

I think the tri-track was Rita
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