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SW6 Construction Part Two

Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:17 pm

Now that we're starting to enter the erection (ooooh errr missus) phase of construction, its time for part 2 of the construction topic. Please use this topic for all construction updates (including photos) and general discussion surrounding construction.

As mentioned in the sub-forum guidelines, this topic will be heavily moderated by the team, particularly in time of increased forum traffic as construction continues. As a result, please ensure that you are contributing to ongoing discussion, and not simply posting for the sake of it. Any posts which are considered to be irrelevant to the ongoing discussion will be deleted.

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Re: SW6 Construction Part Two

Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:11 pm

Just come back from the towers, what a day!

Today I got a good view of the site, what I saw impressed me immensely. The sheer scale of this coaster has just occurred to me, It's bigger than most think. The foundations of the station building are looking very complete and spanking.

The layout is also a lot clearer to me, the large whole is now clearly connected via underground tunnel to the helix trench (which is very deep now). This theory is backed up by a series of arch like metal girders that link up to the helix trench. The launch will be completely underground and from sight.

The hole in my opinion would not fit a Rita sized train in it... maybe a couple of carts less. I would hopefully think there will be a third train...

I also touched the SW6 track... I TOUCHED IT! *manic voice* :mrgreen:

It's looking good and very promising.
 
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Re: SW6 Construction Part Two

Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:29 pm

All sounds good riderita. Glad to hear that the trench and hole connect up, which gives a better idea of what will happen inside.
Hopefully someone will have some photo's of the construction site from this weekend?
 
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Re: SW6 Construction Part Two

Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:37 pm

So... how much of the ride is actually underground?
 
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Re: SW6 Construction Part Two

Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:05 pm

"EdwinOkli" wrote:
So... how much of the ride is actually underground?

That's being debated considering none of it is on the plans.
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Re: SW6 Construction Part Two

Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:14 pm

I think the layout for the tunnel is similar to the diagram below...

The black is the track/tunnel

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Re: SW6 Construction Part Two

Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:24 pm

Is that how big the pit is compared to the whole station itself. :shock: The station is going to be huge then. Is the tunnel that long?
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Re: SW6 Construction Part Two

Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:35 pm

"Kaz""][quote=""Evostance" wrote:
The hole is believed to be for a tunnel where the ride goes underground. Take that as from someone who works at Alton.



Ditto. A tunnel for a rollercoaster would be a cut and cover job. In other words you are wrong.[/quote]

:clap: Well done Evostance! I also predicted this would be a tunnel back in August but was also shot down. This is AT and those of us that know them well, know they dont do anything by convention!

Oh forgot to ask, how much of the helix do we think will be a tunnel then? I would guess at only the part covered by the station.
 
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:39 pm

The only problem with the tunnel theory is that the only method that could be used for such a tunnel is cut and cover, the tunnel (if it is one) is too shallow for a tunnel excavation method, there is not enough pressure from the material above the tunnel to withstand the ground trauma of tunnelling and therefore it would collapse before it could be supported.

Also there’s now a wall of concrete between the first hole and the helix pit, this was pored in to support the sides of the big hole. You can see from the pouring mold that no space was left for a tunnel entrance.

I am happy to be wrong but the evidence suggests i am not.

My theory is you drop into the helix pit with a nice pop of airtime after the "mystery" section
 
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Re: SW6 Construction Part Two

Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:41 pm

The pit won't be just part of the tunnel... I reckon the drop (if that is what it is) will go below the height of the connecting tunnel and do something special before following on through the tunnel.

If there is a drop or tilt we should be expecting some tri-track, there's no way it can all be bi-rail.
 
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:47 pm

"dormiensdraco" wrote:
Also there’s now a wall of concrete between the first hole and the helix pit, this was pored in to support the sides of the big hole. You can see from the pouring mold that no space was left for a tunnel entrance.

I am happy to be wrong but the evidence suggests i am not.

My theory is you drop into the helix pit with a nice pop of airtime after the "mystery" section


Not forgetting the massive concrete footers as well. :D
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Re: SW6 Construction Part Two

Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:56 am

"EdwinOkli" wrote:
If there is a drop or tilt we should be expecting some tri-track, there's no way it can all be bi-rail.

Why? If we assume it's going to be a drop, it can certainly be assumed that any mechanism will be capable of withstanding the necessary forces, and thus the track itself doesn't need to (i.e. if joined properly, it will pass it's stresses and strains on to the mechanism).

Besides, surely (IMHO) bi-rail would be easier to attach to such a mechanism than tri-track, hence why you don't see tri-track used as a standard transfer track. I think.
 
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Re: SW6 Construction Part Two

Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:04 pm

I was on park yesterday and it was my first close up with the construction since the start of the season. I cannot believe how deep the trench is, photos don't really convey how deep it is really imo. I didn't think there would be anyone on site yesterday as it was a Sunday...but there were a few workers just removing casting walls from the station area. The back trench is quiet deep and love how it goes under the station. Had a great day yesterday anyway. I will be back at Alton Towers on the 2nd October to hopefully see some more progress and maybe some vertical construction! :P
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:19 pm

Should be going on Wednesday with a bit of luck. Taking my camera and hoping to get a few shots of the area.
 
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Re: SW6 Construction Part Two

Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:25 pm

Had a look at the track and supports currently on the car park last night. Not much steel work has been delivered as yet, but alot of electrical and mechanical components. Guessing another delivery will take place today. If it hasn't already...

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Re: SW6 Construction Part Two

Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:14 pm

"Javs""][quote=""Kaz""][quote=""Evostance" wrote:
The hole is believed to be for a tunnel where the ride goes underground. Take that as from someone who works at Alton.



Ditto. A tunnel for a rollercoaster would be a cut and cover job. In other words you are wrong.[/quote]

:clap: Well done Evostance! I also predicted this would be a tunnel back in August but was also shot down. This is AT and those of us that know them well, know they dont do anything by convention!

Oh forgot to ask, how much of the helix do we think will be a tunnel then? I would guess at only the part covered by the station.[/quote]

Actually he was wrong in a sense; as I outlined in that post it would have to be cut and cover.
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Re: SW6 Construction Part Two

Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:01 pm

Some more photos of the track can be found over on Towers Nerd, these were taken on earlier at around 17.10. It looks like there is more curved track, backwards helix maybe...?

http://www.towersnerd.com/gallery/?id=329
 
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Re: SW6 Construction Part Two

Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:32 pm

Completely forgot about Towers Nerd.
Some more boring track, what would really liven stuff up is if we saw B&M track, like OMG no way! But no, we won't. OT - When do you think we'll next see B&M track? Thorpe 2012?

Back on topic, do you think we'll actually get a look at any of the in station track before it gets installed? I mean Alton could be extremely careful about this if they wanted to be... although, is putting track up inside a station hard? Did they not do it with SAW (that has an equally massive station [probably bigger]).
 
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Re: SW6 Construction Part Two

Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:40 pm

The more and more this progresses with comments and track pictures, the more my excitement goes about this ride. I don't know maybe it will be something spectacular? Out of intrest, where is the track being kept at the moment? Which car parking area?
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Re: SW6 Construction Part Two

Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:46 pm

"EdwinOkli" wrote:
Back on topic, do you think we'll actually get a look at any of the in station track before it gets installed? I mean Alton could be extremely careful about this if they wanted to be... although, is putting track up inside a station hard? Did they not do it with SAW (that has an equally massive station [probably bigger]).

Nope, AFAIK Saw's indoor track was erected, and the station building then built around it.
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