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Disabilities?

Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:35 pm

Hey, i am going to Alton Towers on tuesday and was wondering if you get a disabled persons pass if you bring a valid statement?
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Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:55 pm

Yes. You get to skip all queue's.

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Re: Disabilities?

Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:02 pm

Even if it is just for Dyslexia?
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Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:29 pm

Well I got told a while back, in 2009, that I'd need a doctor's certificate to prove I have ADHD.

I decided against for two reasons:
Firstly, I was too lazy to find the certificate, and secondly because I really don't think I should use it as an excuse to bypass queues. I do find it harder to queue but I can do it and I think if you can do it then you should do it. In the greater sphere of things my 'condition' (i hate it being called that!) is only mildly affecting me and as such a minor condition.
My friend who has diabetes and gets to jump the queues says it feels good the first few times you get to jump the queue, but it does feel wrong when you push in front of people for no reason, and she has a more valid excuse!

I know how it annoys long suffering queuers when they see people like me just looking for excuses, and that puts me off!
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Re: Disabilities?

Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:31 pm

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Well I got told a while back, in 2009, that I'd need a doctor's certificate to prove I have ADHD.

I decided against for two reasons:
Firstly, I was too lazy to find the certificate, and secondly because I really don't think I should use it as an excuse to bypass queues. I do find it harder to queue but I can do it and I think if you can do it then you should do it. In the greater sphere of things my 'condition' (i hate it being called that!) is only mildly affecting me and as such a minor condition.
My friend who has diabetes and gets to jump the queues says it feels good the first few times you get to jump the queue, but it does feel wrong when you push in front of people for no reason, and she has a more valid excuse!

I know how it annoys long suffering queuers when they see people like me just looking for excuses, and that puts me off!

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Well I got told a while back, in 2009, that I'd need a doctor's certificate to prove I have ADHD.

I decided against for two reasons:
Firstly, I was too lazy to find the certificate, and secondly because I really don't think I should use it as an excuse to bypass queues. I do find it harder to queue but I can do it and I think if you can do it then you should do it. In the greater sphere of things my 'condition' (i hate it being called that!) is only mildly affecting me and as such a minor condition.
My friend who has diabetes and gets to jump the queues says it feels good the first few times you get to jump the queue, but it does feel wrong when you push in front of people for no reason, and she has a more valid excuse!

I know how it annoys long suffering queuers when they see people like me just looking for excuses, and that puts me off!



Understand completley where you are coming from, my girlfriend is Dyslexic and she thought it would be good to skip the queues as a result of her condition, i will give her the choice.
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Re: Disabilities?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:13 am

I don't understand, how does dyslexia affect your ability to queue?
 
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:32 am

In short, Dorsia, it doesn't! However Alton cannot discriminate between disabilities, so anybody registered as disabled is elligeble for a band to jump the queues.

Trust me, the debate of how Alton should categorise the disabled, and who actually should require skipping the queue is a major minefield. Best not stray into it, and just accept that any disabled guests have the right to priority access. Thankfully, very few abuse this right :D
 
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:14 am

Isn't there a topic for this somewhere? :P
 
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:07 am

"NF2" wrote:
In short, Dorsia, it doesn't! However Alton cannot discriminate between disabilities, so anybody registered as disabled is elligeble for a band to jump the queues.

Trust me, the debate of how Alton should categorise the disabled, and who actually should require skipping the queue is a major minefield. Best not stray into it, and just accept that any disabled guests have the right to priority access. Thankfully, very few abuse this right :D


Ah, I see.

I don't mind, disabled people have difficult enough lives. A more complicated system would just add extra hassle to their day, they don't need that. Any system is open to abuse, but to get a pass they'd need to have a problem, one that I'm glad I don't have, so I find it difficult to get really annoyed by it.
 
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:23 am

Wow Diabetes in absolutely no way affects wether you can queue or not, unless you are q-ing for a hot dog, 8) I would never consider using Diabetes as an excuse to skip queues, but i can see the parks train of thought: if somebody turns up with a doctors letter and the staff don't want to rock the boat, i can see why it happens.

I personally do not think ADHD can be considered (in most cases) something that effects how you can queue.
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Re: Disabilities?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:06 am

"carpenterj06" wrote:
Even if it is just for Dyslexia?


Is there not a part of you that feels bad for queue jumping with Dyslexia, something that does not affect your ability to queue. I don't want to be rude but that seems very unfair of you to use your Dyslexia to gain a disability pass. :roll:
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:17 am

Well I can see why Alton do this and let it slip because it could be really bad for them if they denied someone and they went public with it, shame on thoise people doing it :evil:

I broke my leg visiting Orlando etc and i got to skip the ques then for a good reason but i do think Alton should make some sort of guidelines, it seems at the moment i could walk up to them with any problem and they would give me one.
 
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:32 am

I think any person who receives DLA, for any reasons inc the above, should not be made to feel rubbish about claiming a bonus pass for jumping queues. Lots of people on DLA have problems that are not visible to most people. I suffer from Rheumatoid Arthritis and some days you wouldn't even know and some days you do. My life is hell sometimes so to have little perks like queue jumping really makes a difference and a perk to the most awful disease :cry: . However, when i go with my children, i opt out of this perk and just get a parent pass as technically it gives me the same benefits plus i can ride with other family members who come with us. I would hate to think im annoying you queuers though :roll: . Just think about the person who has a lifelong problem. DLA isn't handed out willy nilly, you have to go through loads of tests, interviews, examinations mostly which are humiliating :cry:
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Re: Disabilities?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:40 am

"carpenterj06" wrote:
Even if it is just for Dyslexia?


I'm Dyslexic... yes it means you need a few extra minutes in an exam. However, I don't think that having Dyslexia (bearing in mind a lot of people have it) should allow someone to skip the queue's as it were. It doesn't effect your mobility... I've queued hours for rides in the past. Never had a problem, why would you. :?

To be honest, I'd feel a bit stupid if I got to skip the queue's because I have Dyslexia because there is no reason at all why I couldn't queue with everyone else. 8-[

Can you imagine, if Alton gave Disability Passes to every Dyslexic person who entered the gate... there would be so many people skipping the queue's, it would be ridiculous, unfair and above all unnecessary.

:roll:

Yes, some 'invisible' disabilities do really effect your day to day life. However, I wouldn't class having Dyslexia as a serious condition that seriously effects your life. :| I fully respect people who have serious conditions and have the bonus of skipping the queues but not people who are just trying to find some way of getting to skip the queue's... :x

Quite an interesting issue actually. Very hard for a park to deal with. :)
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Re: Disabilities?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:53 am

"El Patricko" wrote:
Wow Diabetes in absolutely no way affects wether you can queue or not, unless you are q-ing for a hot dog, 8) I would never consider using Diabetes as an excuse to skip queues, but i can see the parks train of thought: if somebody turns up with a doctors letter and the staff don't want to rock the boat, i can see why it happens.

I personally do not think ADHD can be considered (in most cases) something that effects how you can queue.



My friend said it was because she had to have meals at certain times to coincide with her insulin injections, but she got around that by just buying food before hand and putting it in a rucksack.
Although she now has that thing that constantly gives a supply of insulin through a tube, it is no longer a problem.
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Re: Disabilities?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:07 pm

You cannot skip queues because you have dyslexia.. Why would you think this?
 
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Re: Disabilities?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:48 pm

Although she does not want to use it we phoned up Alton Towers and they said that a person with dyslexia is very likely to recieve a pass.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:10 pm

Well one in ten people in the UK have dyslexia.

I think it is very silly of Alton Towers to class people who are dyslexic as people who are unable to queue.

I've never had a problem queuing in my life so why should I (as a dyslexic person) be able to push in front of everyone, in my opinion, for no reason. :roll:

This is actually a joke, if this was in full practice, the disabled queues would nearly be as long as the main queue. :shock:
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Re: Disabilities?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:42 pm

But what AT said was that you would be given a pass and say for example you go on Rita and it was a 90min queue, they would not let you use your pass for 90 mins...
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Re: Disabilities?

Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:51 am

"carpenterj06" wrote:
But what AT said was that you would be given a pass and say for example you go on Rita and it was a 90min queue, they would not let you use your pass for 90 mins...


The way it's always worked when I've used it (last season) is that you get straight on the ride, but if it's busy, they'll ask you not to return to that ride again until the current queue time has passed.

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