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Sonic Shaking?

Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:36 pm

Was on park today and while queing for Sonic I noticed how violently the evac stairs were shaking aswell as some of the supports around the track I can understand the supports shaking as of the track but surely that isent right that the stairs are shaking that badly or am I wrong? :?
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Re: Sonic Shaking?

Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:46 pm

I think I'm right in saying that Sonic's roller coaster type(Maurer Söhne Spinning Coaster 2200) naturally shakes, just the design of the coaster I assume?
 
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Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:09 pm

It has always been the same, likewise Dragons Fury.

Don't worry about it. ;)
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Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:20 pm

Some of old Schwarzkopfs used to shake much more than Spinball does, it's just the track naturally flexing under the weight of the car/train, and is nothing to be worried about :)
 
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Re: Sonic Shaking?

Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:30 pm

If I remember my high school physics lessons correctly...

If steel didn't bend and flex then it would just snap as soon as it felt any pressure such as high winds, cars spinning round the track...

Hopefully someone can either confirm what I said or (more likely) correct me. :)
 
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Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:37 pm

^ Yeah something like that!

Metal is relatively soft so it can absorb shock by bending and springing back. Harder materials like rock are more brittle so they don't have any "give" to them, and will just break.
 
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Re: Sonic Shaking?

Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:07 am

Also if you look closley there are shock absorbers all over it for this very reason.
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Re: Sonic Shaking?

Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:38 pm

"Zak" wrote:
Was on park today and while queing for Sonic I noticed how violently the evac stairs were shaking aswell as some of the supports around the track I can understand the supports shaking as of the track but surely that isent right that the stairs are shaking that badly or am I wrong? :?


Most rollercoasters shake or have a little give. Next time you ride Nemesis, everytime the train goes through the inline and into the track before the stall turn, the track dips slightly as the train goes through it. The Maurer spinners do tend to move a lot more noticeably then most rides but its nothing to worry about.
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Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:06 pm

"TB2""][quote=""Zak" wrote:
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Wasn't aware Nemesis had a re-track. :P
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Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:34 pm

Zero-g whatever. :P
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Re: Sonic Shaking?

Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:08 pm

Although due too this movement parts of the track would probably be prone to microscopic cracks appearing at certain points in years to come, also known as fatigue.

Nemesis has had work in years gone by to repair hairline cracks caused by fatigue. The B&M track shape is naturally a very strong shape of track and is therefore less prone to flex, but the very high forces applied on Nemesis have made the track flex back and forth over the years causing fatigue.

Air and Oblivion for example would have much much less problems with this than Nemesis would and has had.

Then rides like Spinball with is much less substantial track and relatively high amount of flex could possibly mean more work needs to be done in years to come. Steel is designed to flex, but if that flex goes above a threshold then cracks will start to form.

Non the less though, this track flex and fatigue that it caused, is accommodated into the design of the ride and is nothing to worry about.
 
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Re: Sonic Shaking?

Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:57 pm

It shouldn't be doing that. I'm surprised it didn't just collapse on top of you. Why weren't the Alton staff aware of it?

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Re: Sonic Shaking?

Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:56 pm

if i recall correctly SPinball Wizzer was closed during its first month of operation in 2004 to reinforce the suports to reduse the swaying? may be wrong on that but thats what i seem to remeamber being told.

either way this ride has had a bit of a wobble since day one. its nothign to worry about really after 6 years if it were a seriouse issue it would of been taken care off
 
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Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:54 pm

"Dave" wrote:
if i recall correctly SPinball Wizzer was closed during its first month of operation in 2004 to reinforce the suports to reduse the swaying? may be wrong on that but thats what i seem to remeamber being told.
Spinball was indeed closed in the early months of 2004 which was during my first ever visit. However I believe it had something to do with the carts and restraints as Dragon Fury was also closed for the same reason. Apparently there was a health and safety scare at the time. This was just after the unpleasant incident at Oakwood when a girl had a fatal accident on Hydro.

It was bad timing, having a new ride close for several months shortly after opening.
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