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Graffiti

Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:35 pm

It disappoints me that I have to create this topic. :|

Today, on park, we noticed that there was graffiti on the two Ice Age banners along the path between Sonic Spinball and X-Sector. Additionally, we also saw very similar markings/numbers on the new fence next to the old ToTT queue tunnel in X-Sector, and inside some of the Mutiny Bay Toilet cubicles.

Besides the usual opportunistic queue-line fence messages, I've never seen graffiti at Towers before, and it's sad that someone is pathetic enough to bring marker pens into the park with the sole intention of defacing park property. I do hope this is an isolated case.

However, credit should be given to Towers for cleaning the Ice Age banners up within an hour or so of it appearing, although I doubt the other things we saw will be dealt with so timely.
 
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Re: Graffiti

Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:03 pm

I think the amount of writing in ink on the various queue line fences highlights just how many people take marker pens into the park - especially school kids
 
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Re: Graffiti

Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:26 am

Time to introduce bag searching like the american parks do. Get rid of anything that is sharp or can write!

Doesn't help that the park sells pens mind you.
 
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Re: Graffiti

Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:54 am

We saw this as well. It was just some unintelligible black scrawl that was kind of half over the banner and half on the fence behind it. What sort of moronic person thinks it's a good idea to take spray paint to Alton Towers? It's not exactly something that springs to mind when you pack for a day out. I'm glad that they reacted quickly and got rid of it but they really shouldn't have to be facing this problem.

Random bags checks at the entrance might be a good thing because they may also be able to deal with some of the creeps that take drugs in too. We were strolling along the path in front of the lake towards Sonic Spinball and there was a group of chavs (late 20's?) sat behind a hedge smoking weed next to some geese who were after some food from them. :|
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Re: Graffiti

Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:55 am

I can't believe some chavs would do that. Its really sad to think that some people are stupid enough to actually want to do that- I don't understand graffiti at all, what is the point in it? They won't get anything out of it.
Its really good that Alton dealt with it though, and so quickly.

I agree with  PeteB, bag searching would be good. But it would take a while to search everyones bag, increasing enterence queues. But if it has to be done, it has to be done.
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Re: Graffiti

Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:25 am

I remember that queue line graffiti used to be much worse than it is now. Unless AT have got better at cleaning it off. I have never got the idea of graffiti in pointless places - where I live some kids seem to scribble on road signs more than anything..
 
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Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:44 am

I once saw this scrawled in a pub toilet:
"If writing on a toilet wall is done for neither crittical acclaim, or financial gain, then it must be the purest form of art."

Discuss.

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Re: Graffiti

Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:07 pm

Why would someone pay all that money to get into a theme park and then waste their time scribbling their stupid thoughts onto various walls and objects, etc...? :?
 
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Re: Graffiti

Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:09 pm

PeteB wrote:
Time to introduce bag searching like the american parks do. Get rid of anything that is sharp or can write!


Sarcasm or serious? Please no mandatory bag searches. It's Alton Towers, not an international airport.
 
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Re: Graffiti

Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:11 pm

BigAl wrote:
We were strolling along the path in front of the lake towards Sonic Spinball and there was a group of chavs (late 20's?) sat behind a hedge smoking weed next to some geese who were after some food from them. :|


Yes, we saw that as well :/
 
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Re: Graffiti

Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:39 pm

You go to any theme park in Orlando and you get your bag checked so why not here. Disney have well hidden cctv cameras watching every area of the park. You never see rubbish on the floor,nothing written on queue line fences but here its every where. They should have a rule no under 18 without a adult aged over 18.
 
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Re: Graffiti

Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:05 pm

Themeparksandy1981 wrote:
You go to any theme park in Orlando and you get your bag checked so why not here. Disney have well hidden cctv cameras watching every area of the park. You never see rubbish on the floor,nothing written on queue line fences but here its every where. They should have a rule no under 18 without a adult aged over 18.

It's not just under 18's that do this though. Yes, it's astounding to think that people in their 20's and 30's are still pratting around theme parks rather than being normal and just enjoying themselves in the fantastic surroundings.
 
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Re: Graffiti

Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:11 pm

Many moan in long queues and "get a kick" from it. I've seen it happen and I'm ashamed to say that I didn't do anything. (But what could a puny teenage boy to anyway)?

Alton should either kick off park if seen. Selling pens in sets with extra packaging so it's more faff to open, and check bags and fine.

It's been happening for years... but my question is. What sane person brings a marker to a theme park?
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Re: Graffiti

Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:06 pm

Tbf, it rarely seems to happen and if it does its cleaned off quickly - as it should.

The only downside I remember in recent years was thirteen queueline, but even thats not touched anymore.
 
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Re: Graffiti

Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:12 pm

BigAl wrote:
Themeparksandy1981 wrote:
You go to any theme park in Orlando and you get your bag checked so why not here. Disney have well hidden cctv cameras watching every area of the park. You never see rubbish on the floor,nothing written on queue line fences but here its every where. They should have a rule no under 18 without a adult aged over 18.

It's not just under 18's that do this though. Yes, it's astounding to think that people in their 20's and 30's are still pratting around theme parks rather than being normal and just enjoying themselves in the fantastic surroundings.


18 year old plus its easily to charge them for damage and charge them for the damage the over 18 in the group have done. Its not just Alton Towers but most uk theme parks. CCTV in queue lines can look out for guests who do Graffiti or smoke. They should have a number to txt to report guests.
 
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Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:32 pm

They should have a number to txt to report guests.


As good an idea this would be, are people whom are not on a contract be willing to text, and waste credit? Or people even be bothered to get their phones out? In quite a few of the queues (mainly Thirteen and Air) the reception is quite bad. It may also be a small problem in answering these, and passing on notifications to staff to clean it up. But it might work if they set up certain guidelines in what content the text must include: such as a brief description of the person so that ride staff can either warn them or kick them out of the park, dependent on how bad the graffiti is.

It always confuses as to why people would graffiti- there are better ways to occupy yourself in a queue. I always find myself playing a game on my phone in long queues that does not require internet or good signal, due to patchy areas in the park.

Some scribbles may be amusing, but all it takes is one and then many others follow suit and you end up with graffiti coating fences like a new type of paint. Perhaps an alternate is to find a material or a type of varnish that the ink will not stay and stick on?

Bag checks will probably cause more faff than they're worth, and may be dropped some months after starting due to complaints etc. and if the park do only search the occasional bags (by picking out at random) they may become accused of discrimination, especially if they only search those people who look as though they will be most likely to graffiti.

The queues that seemed to be most effected by it were Thirteen and Rita, since last year and 2010 Dark Forest was probably the busiest area of the park. So perhaps they can focus some effort more on the busier areas, where rides have the longer queues?
 
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Re: Graffiti

Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:55 pm

Themeparksandy1981 wrote:
They should have a rule no under 18 without a adult aged over 18.


What a pointless, awful and discriminatory rule.  :|
 
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Re: Graffiti

Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:29 pm

It might not be Alton towers but when I was at thorpe park, the swarms station had a lot of scratches on the walls. And when I was in the station the two girls behiend me got caught scratching on it and after waiting for an hour they got told to leave the queue line. So hopefully if people get caught doing it the staff should tell them to leave the queue line.

As to the suggestion of the no under 18's without an over 18's, just no, what about people like me who's parent do not want to or can't go on the rides?
 
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Re: Graffiti

Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:13 pm

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So hopefully if people get caught doing it the staff should tell them to leave the queue line.

Never mind just the queue, kick them out of the park!
 
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Re: Graffiti

Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:51 pm

Sad, however credit goes to Alton for sorting it so quick. I've got to say, until you go to PortAventura, you aint seen grafitti!

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