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Re: Alton Towers - General Discussion

Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:17 pm

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It almost seem like Daily Mirror have changed their tune!! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... there.html

That's the Daily Mail ;)
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Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:21 pm

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scottwsmith wrote:
It almost seem like Daily Mirror have changed their tune!! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... there.html

That's the Daily Mail ;)


Kill me with a wooden spoon :(
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Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:54 pm

Pfft the older generation paper so course the rides are empty.
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Re: Alton Towers - General Discussion

Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:08 pm

Although it looks very quiet in those Daily Mail pictures yesterday, i went today and although the rides were a walk on, the park itself was full.
 
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:15 am

One thing about Alton Towers is that the park has great operations with rides dispatching and they run lots of trains instead of just one. So therefore the park can be busy and the rides can be getting through queues easily, meaning that they are walk-on.

It's a depressing article but it's not that quiet every day. They probably went on the quietest day they could.
 
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:49 am

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On wednesday Nemesis & Th13teen were both on one train and had 0 minute queues.
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:50 am

That quote went wrong :)
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:19 am

NemesisRider wrote:
One thing about Alton Towers is that the park has great operations with rides dispatching and they run lots of trains instead of just one. So therefore the park can be busy and the rides can be getting through queues easily, meaning that they are walk-on.

It's a depressing article but it's not that quiet every day. They probably went on the quietest day they could.


But when families and teens see that, they would probably think about going in the summer purely due to the lack of queues.

I think this article is 90% in Alton's favor and I'm surprised 'The Sun' hasn't released a similar article.
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:31 am

Got to admit, even im going this summer (which I normally don't due to queues etc) because of the article. I guess we should make the most of the tiny queues :)

I also agree with you, it does come almost as free marketing, lots of people are put off by massive queues in the summer.

Also, yesterday at 4 I checked ridetimes, all queues were 0 mins apart from NST with a 5 min queue. CBeebies land was still quiet, however, the longest queue was 15 mins.
 
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:58 am

Do they understand that queue times are quieter at 12pm because most people head for lunch at that time? The first picture showing an area around Rita's turn, I have never been, and a video from opening day shows that there is nobody there anyway. Oblivion rarely has a queue, so it's not really a surprise that there weren't many people on, and Smiler's closure probably affected that.

On an un-related note, tabloids really have warped people's perceptions. I was talking to someone at Chessington yesterday who said someone had died on Smiler...
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:29 pm

To be fair, yesterday at 4, all queues were 0 mins apart from NST with 5 mins. Just then, all queues were 0 or 5, with sonic at 20.
 
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:50 pm

Image i take it these times are pretty accurate just now then?
 
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:45 pm

Still, amazingly quiet for the middle of summer (and it's a saturday).
 
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Sun Aug 02, 2015 1:54 am

Yea again it was incredibly quiet, there seem to be a fair amount of guests on park but most of which just spectate thus making queues short. Most of the queue lengths were pushed back simply for issues with certain rides.

Not sure why, joking (based on queue lengths), trolling (have wristband) or just a general nice gesture but a ride host gave me a towerstastic free single fastrack card to cash in lol :)
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Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:26 pm

I quite often pull up the Alton Towers app to have a look at ride times, and it seems to steadily be picking up, this weekend especially with some queues like today at around 4pm, Air has a 35 minute queue time.
However, on almost every occasion I bring up this app, the rides in CBeebies Land always seem to pull larger queues. This to me sounds like families with small children have not been put off. I don't know exactly who AT's target market is, because I assume it's a fairly large one, but it only takes a small amount of digging to find out the types of demographic on park say, this time last year. I'm no marketing specialist either, but it just sounds (on paper) like some more incentivising is needed towards these 'missing' demographics to bring guest numbers back up to standard, should they need this. I don't know exactly what could be given, but it looks like the free child places promotion they're running at the moment is helping CBeebies Land out! A few more 241 offers maybe?
 
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Re: Alton Towers - General Discussion

Sun Aug 02, 2015 8:09 pm

Air may have been 35 minutes at that time, but all the other coasters were 0-5 minute waits. If you devided that time equally, still the same as the last few weeks really.
CBeebies Land must be absolutely rammed, but that's not something Alton can rely on. Remember CBeebies is aimed at 1-8 year olds at a push, so half of that target market come in free, although they will be gaining from the parents.
I think this Summer Holidays as a whole will be very quiet, but Scarefest is hopefully where they will regain the visitors, and with a complete overhaul, it's possible they can make up for the low figures over Halloween/ Fireworks :)
 
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Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:04 pm

Especially considering that there will be a large overhaul with scarefest, and with the possibility of the smiler reopening, I think that will be their comeback :)
 
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Re: Alton Towers - General Discussion

Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:26 am

Scarefest is going to be amazing this year, but I doubt it would make up for a quiet summer completely. Numbers won't return to normal til next year I reckon. Also my inner skeptic can't see the Smiler reopening til next season, though it would make my year to see it going in October.
 
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Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:59 am

I would love to see The Smiler back in operation for Fireworks this year at least, if possible even Scarefest. If it doesn't reopen before the end of this year, then I'd say The Smiler will return for March or FHT (so it can get warmed up before a new season). Nick Varney himself has said he wants to get it back up and running and he's definitely calling the shots in this situation, unless the HSE report finds something significant.

I believe when The Smiler reopens we will see more attendance, being their major coaster (and despite the accident) I think it's still a major draw for the teenage/adult market.
 
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Re: Alton Towers - General Discussion

Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:22 pm

In fact, he said it won't be opening this summer, which perhaps means testing could begin towards the end of summer, ready for scarefest.

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