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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:34 pm

Free fastrack was never going to last with Merlin. I agree it's very annoying indeed.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:38 pm

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Free fastrack was never going to last with Merlin. I agree it's very annoying indeed.


SRQ’s weren’t free Fastrack. It was never guaranteed that the SRQ would be shorter than the main queue.

I remember once queuing 80 minutes in the SRQ for Oblivion, when the main queue was 90 minutes.

Yes, on some rides it worked better than others but I wouldn’t say they were a form of Fastrack.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:00 pm

Can see why they've got rid of it on 13 that didn't really work well. Not sure why they'd get rid of it on Smiler or Oblivion since they'll still need someone on batching for FT.
 
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:39 pm

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Free fastrack was never going to last with Merlin. I agree it's very annoying indeed.


SRQ’s weren’t free Fastrack. It was never guaranteed that the SRQ would be shorter than the main queue.

I remember once queuing 80 minutes in the SRQ for Oblivion, when the main queue was 90 minutes.

Yes, on some rides it worked better than others but I wouldn’t say they were a form of Fastrack.


Of course, you had to judge to see if the SRQ wad worth it, but often you could get on rides like The Smiler within 5 minutes when the regular queue was exceeding 60 minutes.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:43 pm

It all makes sense now for The Smiler and Th13teen, they will probably be using the old single rider path to the station as fastrack given that baggage holds have apparently been ditched.

Still not sure why SRQ has gone on Oblivion, they aren't saving any staff and fastrack already has a path direct to the station.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:45 pm

My friend, when he went on the Smiler, used the single rider with his other friend and then somehow jumped to the main queue. Maybe that’s a reason?
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:07 pm

MakoMania wrote:
It all makes sense now for The Smiler and Th13teen, they will probably be using the old single rider path to the station as fastrack given that baggage holds have apparently been ditched.

Still not sure why SRQ has gone on Oblivion, they aren't saving any staff and fastrack already has a path direct to the station.

Why would baggage holds have been scrapped on Th13teen and The Smiler when one was included in the station building for Wicker Man? 
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Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:14 pm

I am happy for baggage holds to be removed from the ones with the specific booths if they can put cages or something in the stations.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:24 pm

Towers botched the sign up for the original Rita SRQ.  Can't remember the exact wording, but it basically said "Your wait for Rita Queen of Speed will be shorter in this queue.  This is possible ONLY if you are willing to sit in any seat / willing to not sit together".  Of course the general public only read the first sentence on the sign and joined the SRQ & complaints were rife.  The sign was then "amended" with crappy black tape to cover up the first sentence, so it made it clear the SRQ was for riders willing not to ride together.  It was not unknown for multiple trains to have to be dispatched from just the SRQ to prevent "problems".  The sign was replaced fairly quickly in 2005.  I've still got a picture of the taped-up variant of the sign - looks amateur-ish at best.  
 
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:37 pm

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I am happy for baggage holds to be removed from the ones with the specific booths if they can put cages or something in the stations.


See, I wouldn’t. The baggage holds such as that on The Smiler and Th13teen are more secure. Especially on rides such as The Smiler that operate a lot of trains.

If they were to be replaced with cages, I hope they have a system similar to Galactica, with sliding doors to separate each train.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:12 pm

I mean yes that would be even better, it is just my point was is that there should be something dedicated to storing baggage than just dumping it on the floor. By as you say, the sliding door ones are good. Europa Park have some good ones too.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:44 pm

Tom170499 wrote:
MakoMania wrote:
It all makes sense now for The Smiler and Th13teen, they will probably be using the old single rider path to the station as fastrack given that baggage holds have apparently been ditched.

Still not sure why SRQ has gone on Oblivion, they aren't saving any staff and fastrack already has a path direct to the station.

Why would baggage holds have been scrapped on Th13teen and The Smiler when one was included in the station building for Wicker Man? 


I imagine that budget is the reason.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:59 pm

A real shame, are they going to self batching maybe? It's not like it takes an extra member of staff to run a SRQ (assuming Fasttrack is operating). Another silly decision by Alton/Merlin.

I guess that confirms that Wickerman won't have a SRQ too.

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Am I the only one who just has no enthusiasm to visit Alton Towers this year? No SRQ, reduced hours, staggered opening and no public transport. Ugh. Guess my Merlin Pass is now a Thorpe/Chessington annual pass now.
 
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:19 pm

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Am I the only one who just has no enthusiasm to visit Alton Towers this year? No SRQ, reduced hours, staggered opening and no public transport. Ugh. Guess my Merlin Pass is now a Thorpe/Chessington annual pass now.

I think you'll be in a minority with that opinion. Personally, I'm the complete opposite. Thorpe and Chessington have little appeal to me, but Alton I just can't wait to visit! :)
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:34 am

Ridetimes has shown this for the staggered openings this morning:

ERT on selected rides from 9:30am

10:00am:

CBeebies Land
Wicker Man
Heave Ho!
Marauder's Mayhem
Runaway Minetrain
Duel
Spinball Whizzer
The Smiler
Enterprise
Oblivion

10:30am:

Rita
Th13teen
Hex
Driving School
Gallopers Carousel
Frog Hopper

11:00am:

Nemesis
Galactica
The Blade
Battle Galleons
Congo River Rapids
Skyride

EDIT: It is not clear at what time Forbidden Valley was supposed to open, but Nemesis & Galactica are still showing as unavailable as of 11:05am.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:43 am

[rant] Must say I'll miss all but the smiler's SRQ - (nearly) every time i see it or use it; it's not utilised properly, I've been waiting in that queue for ages to find out when we're finally beckoned through the ropes and up the stairs that nobody's been standing there to fill seats for a few batches! seen it happen from the main queue too. They just hold you at the ropes for what feels like forever and for no reason[/rant

Can't imagine SRQ will disappear forever, empty seats do not make good efficiencies.

RE: chap with no enthusiasm for AT this year, each to their own but I'm thrilled about Wickerman and I can't wait to get back to my favourite escape :) 
 
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:19 pm

Don't know if it's an opening thing as Nemesis is still coming up as unavailable.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:27 pm

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Don't know if it's an opening thing as Nemesis is still coming up as unavailable.


Forbidden Valley opens at 11am.

Since today is a pre-season day, 100% ride availability isn’t guaranteed. The park will still be working on getting things ready for the main season opening so I’m not surprised that not everything is open.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:33 pm

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Forbidden Valley opens at 11am.

Are you sure? I'm only questioning since I messaged Alton Towers well before 11am this morning asking about Nemesis & Galactica and they replied stating that they were working to get them open as soon as possible.
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Re: Alton Towers Resort - General Discussion

Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:52 pm

What I mean is, Forbidden Valley should open at 11am, but they may have had issues getting the rides ready or knew they would be opening late/not opening at all due to winter work not being finished yet.

In other news, TowersStreet have provided an update on the SRQ removals at Towers. In the photos below you can see that Oblivion and Th13teen have both had their SRQ’s removed and signage altered. The Th13teen Fastrack queue now utilises the old SRQ, which I believe will be a welcome change to Fastrack ticket holders, while the baggage hold has also been removed.

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The Smiler has also had some alterations to its operations which can be found here.
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