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Re: Planning Application for Enhancements to Air

Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:48 am

I will be incredibly disappointed if it does turn out to be an upcharge. I know it's Merlin and therefore is almost inevitable, but charging for the so called 'new ride' is not going to go down well with anybody at all, and whilst it would make more money, will cause outrage amongst guests who do pay to get in, especially the select few that pay full price.
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Re: Galactica - New for 2016

Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:52 am

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Motion sickness is an obvious concern, but Alton Towers believes it's solved the problem. The ride, which is a modified and re-branded version of its Air roller coaster, will have shoulder straps that make it difficult to move your head left or right. As such, the park's systems only have to worry about motion-tracking the coaster itself, rather than your bodily movements. There will be sensors monitoring each individual headset, however, ensuring the space visuals are "perfectly synchronized" as you tilt your head vertically. That's the claim, anyway. The company says it's also developed a custom tethering system, so the headset will never fall off your face, and head straps so that it remains sweat-free.
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Re: Galactica - New for 2016

Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:53 am

Gonna be so many people throwing up after this ride


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Re: Galactica - 2016 Air Re-theme

Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:56 am

NemesisNosh wrote:
I will be incredibly disappointed if it does turn out to be an upcharge. I know it's Merlin and therefore is almost inevitable, but charging for the so called 'new ride' is not going to go down well with anybody at all, and whilst it would make more money, will cause outrage amongst guests who do pay to get in, especially the select few that pay full price.


It's not a chargeable extra.
 
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Re: Galactica - 2016 Air Re-theme

Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:56 am

TowersStreet are reporting that they are indeed attached to the Galactica trains and not a premium experience charge:

Each rider will wear a specialist VR headset which will be fixed to the craft.
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Re: Galactica - 2016 Air Re-theme

Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:59 am

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Gonna be so many people throwing up after this ride


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Very few people throw up on the one at Europa Park, actually I've never heard of any innocents of it making people feel sick, if people can go on The Smiler and enterprise and not be sick then they can handle this.
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Re: Galactica - 2016 Air Re-theme

Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:00 am

Why would they re-theme the tunnel? No one is going to see it... The exterior probably will - as the concept art shows... but, as Wardley says about the tunnel: "Get a life" :)
 
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Re: Galactica - 2016 Air Re-theme

Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:01 am

I'm sure there will be a few but it sounds like they're trying hard to mitigate it.

I like the idea of different experiences, and with more to come, I guess once they know the duration and the flow of the ride they can Jimmy all manner of things in.

Will Be interesting to see if it can cope with being held on the lift hill without just carrying on with the VR portion.
 
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Re: Galactica - 2016 Air Re-theme

Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:05 am

Great to know that they're also attached to the train, saves a few issues.
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Re: Galactica - 2016 Air Re-theme

Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:08 am

It'll also have a game available on the app markets.

With our new Galactica game you can explore the thrilling wonders of space travel from anywhere. Want to feel what it’s like to be a Galactinaut? Coming soon.


Having the headsets on the trains themselves solves the issue of them falling off which some people brought up. However with the additional shoulder restraints making it hard to move your head left to right then it really narrows down the VR experience you'll be getting. Sure you'll see something completely different but you'll have a hard time moving your head freely.

Not going to be as great as a sit-down coaster with lapbars but exciting nevertheless.

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Re: Galactica - 2016 Air Re-theme

Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:19 am

We aww supposedly "Galactnauts" on this ride...

It all tied to Octonauts as well, they're suit do look awfully like space suits...
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Re: Galactica - 2016 Air Re-theme

Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:23 am

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Great to know that they're also attached to the train, saves a few issues.


By attached it just means they are strapped to the crafts judging by the picture of the guy wearing one and not integrated. They will still need charging so if it comes off your head it won't fall but isn't a part of the craft as a whole.

Few words from Figment Productions on there VR venture here.

Essentially it is just a Samsung Gear VR so it'll have a smartphone inside, how many people do we reckon will try to steal them?! :D

John Wardley has tried it, the new experience has his stamp of approval:

John Wardley, famous roller coaster designer and developer, told Alton Towers after trying Galactica out that it was one of the greatest rides he’d ever experienced.
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Re: Galactica - 2016 Air Re-theme

Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:34 am

On the link it says it is implementable on drop towers, I'm surprised this hasn't been installed on Nemesis: Sub-Terra as that would make the experience much scarier.

In regards to the phone, I'm sure they are very well protected and the chances of people stealing them will be very minimal :)
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Re: Galactica - 2016 Air Re-theme

Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:14 pm

I'm actually quite excited about the Air re-theme to Galactica and am looking forward to experiencing it. Additionally, the option not to have a headset if you'd prefer not to is a good idea in my view, especially like me, you would like to have the option of seeing the real scenery around you throughout the ride :)
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Re: Galactica - 2016 Air Re-theme

Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:23 pm

The website on a mobile device is deffinately worth checking out :)
 
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Re: Galactica - 2016 Air Re-theme

Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:39 pm

I can honestly say I'm really looking forward to this, it will give a ride I found rather dull a whole new lease of life! The theming around the ride looks really good too, hopefully this is a sign of things to come from the park!

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Re: Galactica - 2016 Air Re-theme

Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:59 pm

They keep saying launch portal for the theming element that surrounds the bottom of the lift hill. The question is-will it actually be a launch? I think it is possible.
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Re: Galactica - 2016 Air Re-theme

Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:08 pm

As good as it is that Alton is giving Air a new lease of life, I don't believe this was the best way to do it.
My money's on that within the year, people just ride without the headset.
Also, Alton have said they're going to clean the headsets after every ride yet still maintain throughput, will be interesting to see how this is achieved.
Also, in regards to the motion sickness conversation. Yes, not many people complained about motion sickness at Europa Park but this in an inverted flying coaster we're talking about here, not a normal sit down one. I'm thinking there will be quite a high rate of motion sickness; your body is moving one way yet your mind is focusing on the screen in front of you. I know an awful lot of people who get motion sick on the Forbidden Journey, this could be similar.
And above all, it's going to look so out of place, and we'll just have to hope they don't rush things to open it just like they did with Sub Terra.
 
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Re: Galactica - 2016 Air Re-theme

Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:15 pm

Judging by the fact that there are multiple planets on the website, with more advertised to be added, and the fact that Air isn't a particularly long ride, could we be seeing something like Star Tours 2.0 here? Multiple destinations means for numerous different experiences, and would bring a rerideability factor to the table. Unlikely, but certainly possible.
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Re: Galactica - 2016 Air Re-theme

Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:28 pm

I'm pleased the old girl is getting a new lease of life in some guise, I'll be surprised if I prefer the VR experience over the current Mk1 eyeball, I'll give it a try mind. It looks like it's all bolted onto the train as something you can put on if you want it.

What has amazed me how much the Marketing Department is spinning this as such a big deal, they can't even answer a straight question on Twitter as to whether this is Air or a new coaster (not me asking), with news sites quoting all the stats as if it's a new ride.

I could have saved all the time wasted over this marketing campaign, Air + VR + new lick of paint = Galactica

That reminds me, I will be thinking more of Battlestar G with that name, the reboot series I'm particularly fond of.

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