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Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:54 pm

Standup lol bring it on
 
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Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:57 pm

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Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:37 pm

oliviamae wrote:
hopefully not 4d. with ice age 4d, it would look too much like AT are latching onto the gimmick. i hope it's something with more of a lasting impact.


Wrong 4D. Look up X2 Six Flags Magic Mountain, that kind of 4D.
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Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:46 pm

The Moon wrote:
oliviamae wrote:
hopefully not 4d. with ice age 4d, it would look too much like AT are latching onto the gimmick. i hope it's something with more of a lasting impact.


Wrong 4D. Look up X2 Six Flags Magic Mountain, that kind of 4D.


i mean more having two rides listed as 4d doesn't sound as exciting as a totally unique first
 
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Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:49 pm

But if you cannot distinguish in your mind between an animated sloth and a huge seat spinning coaster, you really won't have the nouse to write yourself a cheque in your favourite crayon to buy a ticket. People give the GP too little credit.
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Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:32 pm

i don't know... some of the things i've overheard in queues beg to differ! haha
 
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Re: The Smiler - Speculation

Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:31 am

oliviamae wrote:
by world beating i think it means beating the world record of most inversions. that seems most plausible. sorry if it's already been mentioned!

As far as I can see, the change to the wording probably means this is most likely - switching from "Worlds first rollercoaster with 11 (or 12, or whatever it is) inversions" to "World beating 11 inversion coaster"
 
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:11 am

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oliviamae wrote:
by world beating i think it means beating the world record of most inversions. that seems most plausible. sorry if it's already been mentioned!

As far as I can see, the change to the wording probably means this is most likely - switching from "Worlds first rollercoaster with 11 (or 12, or whatever it is) inversions" to "World beating 11 inversion coaster"

It's unlikely that Alton will go for that record, as there's a 12 inversion coaster being built in the far east, due to open shortly after SW7. So for Alton to go for a legitimate record they would need 13, and as only 8 are visible on the plans (and unless alton have found a way to cram 5 into the station building) it's highly unlikely that it will be the inversion record.
 
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:44 am

World First Coaster to feature a pocket dimension where the 5 other inversions are hiding.

Beating also implies to me a heart-beat. But what does that have to do with hypnosis/genetics/secret organisations?

World's First Eurofighter with a splash section?

Guess which suggestion was the real one.
 
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:19 pm

I have a very good feeling that it is related to the 'New for 2012!' Scarefest Maze 'The Sanctuary' bearing in mind that the title logo has very similar features to the brand-new Alton Tower's '2013' site that went live a few days ago i.e. bright, yellow and green colours, same font for text etc. So, I think it will definitely have something to do with 'burial' (from the sheer fact they've talked about construction in the X-Sector (SW7) in the Scarefest Description). Also, I'd just like to point out, this ride won't have a 'World First' element but it's described as a 'World BEATING' Element, which could relate back to the Vertical Launch idea!  :)
 
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:44 pm

you are correct, Towers have already stated that The Sanctuary will be linked in some way to SW7.
 
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:21 pm

TropicKnight wrote:
I have a very good feeling that it is related to the 'New for 2012!' Scarefest Maze 'The Sanctuary' bearing in mind that the title logo has very similar features to the brand-new Alton Tower's '2013' site that went live a few days ago i.e. bright, yellow and green colours, same font for text etc. So, I think it will definitely have something to do with 'burial' (from the sheer fact they've talked about construction in the X-Sector (SW7) in the Scarefest Description). Also, I'd just like to point out, this ride won't have a 'World First' element but it's described as a 'World BEATING' Element, which could relate back to the Vertical Launch idea!  :)


however in the sentinel paper the ride is still being refered to as a world first.
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Re: The Smiler - Speculation

Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:47 pm

Exactly ^^
"World beating", "World's First", I think towers are really playing with enthusiasts this time round :)
 
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:21 pm

Boz wrote:
swfcjambo wrote:
oliviamae wrote:
by world beating i think it means beating the world record of most inversions. that seems most plausible. sorry if it's already been mentioned!

As far as I can see, the change to the wording probably means this is most likely - switching from "Worlds first rollercoaster with 11 (or 12, or whatever it is) inversions" to "World beating 11 inversion coaster"

It's unlikely that Alton will go for that record, as there's a 12 inversion coaster being built in the far east, due to open shortly after SW7. So for Alton to go for a legitimate record they would need 13, and as only 8 are visible on the plans (and unless alton have found a way to cram 5 into the station building) it's highly unlikely that it will be the inversion record.


The same debate came up over at TS a few days ago, here was the answer I gave:

It's worth noting that the current inversion record holder is Eejanaika which is recognised by the Guinness Book of Records as having 14. I know there's some debate over this as some of them are roll over inversions like Air but if Alton are after the record they'd have to reach 15 to truly take the crown.

For this reason I find it exceedingly unlikely. We only know of 8 which are already very tightly packed together. Space wise there isn't any way to fit in 15. The only option is some type of trick track but it would have to tip the cart upside down ~7 times all within 32 seconds (the time I previously calculated for the Block Break system).

Personally I'd rather they didn't try breaking that record  :-\

Edit: I forgot to mention, to my knowledge there is no Roller Coaster that has 9 inversions. So it could be the World's First ride to have 9 inversions only... but I can't imagine it will be (although I'm kind of hoping it does as a secondary unique selling point).
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Re: The Smiler - Speculation

Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:49 pm

I really don't think this will have an uphill launch. Nothing's been confirmed
 
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Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:14 am

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I really don't think this will have an uphill launch. Nothing's been confirmed


Nothings been confirmed full stop. No one has any idea what will happen inside that building, what the ride cars will be like, what will happen on the lift hills.

You can't rule anything out yet, including a launched lift hill.
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Re: The Smiler - Speculation

Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:25 pm

Has anyone seen the revision plans

Why do the boxes/theming features over the track have spikes in them and why does it look like the exit is blocked off :/
 
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Re: The Smiler - Speculation

Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:24 pm

The exit isn't completely blocked off, as you can see in the top right of the picture below. And the spikes are theming  8)

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Re: The Smiler - Speculation

Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:37 pm

Nice video,anyone else thinking if the rides reg number may leave a clue to the name?
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