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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:34 pm

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We don't know, we've never seen fins on lift hills before




Maverick?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPOox6r6eDI



They're not "fins", they're LSM/LIM.
 
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:35 pm

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The only thing to make it seem unreliable is the fact it was translated from German, but the numbers are the same in both languages


Actually I'm pretty sure someone discredited it as a fake webpage... And really? I thought 15 was german for 14  :roll: ;)


No, the numbers are the same so unless it was a typo I think we have the secret element, it's a brand new way of going upside down, maybewith your feet and head swapped over to mmake it look like you're upside down when you're really not.

How about the random placement and length of the fins on lifthill 1... Is that normal?


What? Really?


I give as much sarcasm as I get.

Talking of the train on track, I'm sure they went and got one out of storage just to make sure it was the same 4ft8.5ins gauge as the track...

Or on a more logical note, they've moved it to the maintenance shed?
 
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:38 pm

gouldy wrote:
owenjohn wrote:
A wrote:

We don't know, we've never seen fins on lift hills before




Maverick?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPOox6r6eDI



They're not "fins", they're LSM/LIM.


And also due to the colour and amount they stick out compared to the vertical lift, is say these look like random sized and placed pinch brakes
 
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:49 pm

andzdrew wrote:
gouldy wrote:
owenjohn wrote:
A wrote:

We don't know, we've never seen fins on lift hills before




Maverick?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPOox6r6eDI



They're not "fins", they're LSM/LIM.


And also due to the colour and amount they stick out compared to the vertical lift, is say these look like random sized and placed pinch brakes




Irrespective of what colour they are, the intended purpose (stopping, starting) ,the distance apart, the fact that they protrude from the track makes them fins.
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:16 pm

andzdrew wrote:
gouldy wrote:
owenjohn wrote:
A wrote:

We don't know, we've never seen fins on lift hills before




Maverick?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPOox6r6eDI



They're not "fins", they're LSM/LIM.


And also due to the colour and amount they stick out compared to the vertical lift, is say these look like random sized and placed pinch brakes



Love the phrase, "random sized and placed". Nothing is random, everything will have a calculation, and a reason. They are probably all different spaces appart due to each segment being slightly different, and thus throwing the positioning out. Either way, it won't matter, if they could've used one great big long fin they would've.

Sorry, I mentioned the "f" word.......
 
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:22 pm

Why do my comments keep disappearing? lol
 
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:26 pm

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Why do my comments keep disappearing? lol

Mod is deleting them ? :) probably
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:27 pm

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aress wrote:
Why do my comments keep disappearing? lol

Mod is deleting them ? :) probably


All I said was enough with the fins! Fair comment, I thought! Oh well  :(
 
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:41 pm

"F'in" hell! Still going on about these fins? Perhaps the debate will only "slow and never stop"... Perhaps we should "launch" the conversation back into construction? If not I will have to "brake" some bones. Hopefully this little comment will be enough to "lift us over the hill" of the argument... ;) fnaar fnaar!
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:58 pm

Wow The Smiler looks fantastic, well done AT, you will show up the competition of other coasters once again :)
 
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:09 pm

I totally agree, amazing job! I just hope it opens in time for when i go on the 25th :/
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:35 pm

Can't wait for a good POV to come out for it, I won't be going for a while after it is built.
 
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:50 pm

aircanman wrote:
Can't wait for a good POV to come out for it, I won't be going for a while after it is built.


I hope that a newspaper will do an official one, like the times did for saw. Itv covered th13teen. So I can't imagine that alton would surpass the chance of free marketing such as this.
 
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:18 pm

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You're wrong. :) They're called Inverted Drops on The Smiler game.

Arh ok i cant play the game so that's why i didn't know.

As for construction was any more of the lift put in today or is it still how it was earlier?


Time to join in the debate here as I think there's a point (something which I was thinking but never had the brass to express, for fear of all you fine roller coaster "know-it-alls" hastily putting my thoughts to shame). I mean that playfully, not offensively - so please take none.

Anyway, the point which I'm feeling is that the drops don't really appear to be what I would call an inverted drop. Mumbo Jumbo in Flamingo Land has one (although it's a small one), and I don't mean the first drop on it, I know that one's just a more than vertical drop. There's one near the end where it does a roll as it drops, meaning some of the actual "dropping" part is inverted. As mentioned above, the game refers to them as inverted drops. Sorry but it doesn't. It calls one of them an inverted drop and t'other one a twisted drop. (We might be splitting hairs here, I know.)

I may be, and probably am, mistaken here but I don't recall seeing a picture showing both drops in order to make a comparison and to judge (for want of a better word) whether or not the drops are inverted. I, provisionally, am in the box labelled "it inverts then drops".

It's not a real box.

Moving on a little now - my main thoughts on the construction of The Smiler (this is the construction thread) is that it's a job well done. I know there has been (pragmatically if not directly) some negative feedback on various elements of the build. I believe some of y'all work within the construction industry, and you are likely best suited to provide me with parliamentary style cheers. This has been an engineering masterpiece from the design phase and throughout. My most gracious of thanks to all who have been privileged to work on The Smiler thus far, including the apprentice, no doubt doing many brew runs for the lads on site!
 
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:39 pm

SonicChips wrote:
sw7nutter wrote:
Hazbean wrote:

You're wrong. :) They're called Inverted Drops on The Smiler game.

Arh ok i cant play the game so that's why i didn't know.

As for construction was any more of the lift put in today or is it still how it was earlier?


Time to join in the debate here as I think there's a point (something which I was thinking but never had the brass to express, for fear of all you fine roller coaster "know-it-alls" hastily putting my thoughts to shame). I mean that playfully, not offensively - so please take none.

Anyway, the point which I'm feeling is that the drops don't really appear to be what I would call an inverted drop. Mumbo Jumbo in Flamingo Land has one (although it's a small one), and I don't mean the first drop on it, I know that one's just a more than vertical drop. There's one near the end where it does a roll as it drops, meaning some of the actual "dropping" part is inverted. As mentioned above, the game refers to them as inverted drops. Sorry but it doesn't. It calls one of them an inverted drop and t'other one a twisted drop. (We might be splitting hairs here, I know.)

I may be, and probably am, mistaken here but I don't recall seeing a picture showing both drops in order to make a comparison and to judge (for want of a better word) whether or not the drops are inverted. I, provisionally, am in the box labelled "it inverts then drops".

It's not a real box.

Moving on a little now - my main thoughts on the construction of The Smiler (this is the construction thread) is that it's a job well done. I know there has been (pragmatically if not directly) some negative feedback on various elements of the build. I believe some of y'all work within the construction industry, and you are likely best suited to provide me with parliamentary style cheers. This has been an engineering masterpiece from the design phase and throughout. My most gracious of thanks to all who have been privileged to work on The Smiler thus far, including the apprentice, no doubt doing many brew runs for the lads on site!


Just correcting you slightly on one thing. There is no beyond vertical drop on this coaster :)
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:41 pm

SonicChips wrote:
sw7nutter wrote:
Hazbean wrote:

You're wrong. :) They're called Inverted Drops on The Smiler game.

Arh ok i cant play the game so that's why i didn't know.

As for construction was any more of the lift put in today or is it still how it was earlier?


[Irrelevant thoughts here]
As mentioned above, the game refers to them as inverted drops. Sorry but it doesn't. It calls one of them an inverted drop and t'other one a twisted drop.


Does anyone know which drop is the inverted one and which is the twisted one? Is the 1st drop the inverted drop? Can someone also grab two photos of the drops and compare them here, to see the 'actual' difference. I would do it but I am on a phone, making it very difficult.
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:45 pm

no other updates from today yet then?
 
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:53 pm

MatthewR1990 wrote:
SonicChips wrote:
sw7nutter wrote:
Hazbean wrote:

You're wrong. :) They're called Inverted Drops on The Smiler game.

Arh ok i cant play the game so that's why i didn't know.

As for construction was any more of the lift put in today or is it still how it was earlier?


Time to join in the debate here as I think there's a point (something which I was thinking but never had the brass to express, for fear of all you fine roller coaster "know-it-alls" hastily putting my thoughts to shame). I mean that playfully, not offensively - so please take none.

Anyway, the point which I'm feeling is that the drops don't really appear to be what I would call an inverted drop. Mumbo Jumbo in Flamingo Land has one (although it's a small one), and I don't mean the first drop on it, I know that one's just a more than vertical drop. There's one near the end where it does a roll as it drops, meaning some of the actual "dropping" part is inverted. As mentioned above, the game refers to them as inverted drops. Sorry but it doesn't. It calls one of them an inverted drop and t'other one a twisted drop. (We might be splitting hairs here, I know.)

I may be, and probably am, mistaken here but I don't recall seeing a picture showing both drops in order to make a comparison and to judge (for want of a better word) whether or not the drops are inverted. I, provisionally, am in the box labelled "it inverts then drops".

It's not a real box.

Moving on a little now - my main thoughts on the construction of The Smiler (this is the construction thread) is that it's a job well done. I know there has been (pragmatically if not directly) some negative feedback on various elements of the build. I believe some of y'all work within the construction industry, and you are likely best suited to provide me with parliamentary style cheers. This has been an engineering masterpiece from the design phase and throughout. My most gracious of thanks to all who have been privileged to work on The Smiler thus far, including the apprentice, no doubt doing many brew runs for the lads on site!


Just correcting you slightly on one thing. There is no beyond vertical drop on this coaster :)


I was still referring to Mumbo Jumbo when I said that. My apologies for the lack of clarity on my part  :)
 
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:54 pm

118hazaman wrote:
SonicChips wrote:
sw7nutter wrote:
Hazbean wrote:

You're wrong. :) They're called Inverted Drops on The Smiler game.

Arh ok i cant play the game so that's why i didn't know.

As for construction was any more of the lift put in today or is it still how it was earlier?


[Irrelevant thoughts here]
As mentioned above, the game refers to them as inverted drops. Sorry but it doesn't. It calls one of them an inverted drop and t'other one a twisted drop.


Does anyone know which drop is the inverted one and which is the twisted one? Is the 1st drop the inverted drop? Can someone also grab two photos of the drops and compare them here, to see the 'actual' difference. I would do it but I am on a phone, making it very difficult.


First drop (credit to Roodlesnouter)
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Second Drop (theme park worldwide)
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The second looks more of a corkscrew whereas the first looks more twisted to me
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:26 am

Is it me or dos the frame to the secound drop look a bit slanted. Is it suppost to be like that?
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