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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Sun May 26, 2013 11:46 pm

Phild94 wrote:
Do those brownie points come with real double chocolate brownies? :D


if i had any then yes.... yes they would. (Y)

if brownies will shut people up moaning and get them to try and still think of the positives.

the issue is we have had to wait too long (for reasons explained everywhere, or whatever) , and since we have been able to follow EVERY MOVE made with this, constant updates and excitement, now all of that is over, its eating away at everyone and theres nothing else to talk about but just moan.

i know some things are legit something to moan about but jeez, sometimes we get a little oTT... ;)

so yes. brownies.
 
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Sun May 26, 2013 11:50 pm

When Kingda Ka was built didn't it take a good while to perfect the launch in order for it to get over the top hat? I thought they even had to replace the chain? I guess with new groundbreaking roller coasters sometimes things do go wrong
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Sun May 26, 2013 11:56 pm

Ahhh brownies.

I'm looking at the bottom of the cars right now. Does anyone know what the things that look like CPU radiator/cooling fins are?
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Sun May 26, 2013 11:58 pm

Whats the difference between valleying & stalling? My common sense tells me a stall is when it gets stuck, valleying is when it doesn't make it and then rolls backwards through the track and then forwards again until it eventually rests at its lowest point. (Like a valley)
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon May 27, 2013 12:05 am

MatthewR1990 wrote:
Whats the difference between valleying & stalling? My common sense tells me a stall is when it gets stuck, valleying is when it doesn't make it and then rolls backwards through the track and then forwards again until it eventually rests at its lowest point. (Like a valley)


You've answered your own question.

Stalling is a complete stop, valleying is when the coaster train moves back and forth then rests. The physics of the two are very different, so this explains the delay if it did valley.

The coaster is not designed to go backwards on this track, so that may have caused major damage to the track and to the wheels as the weight distribution/resultant forces will have been ALL WRONG.
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon May 27, 2013 12:06 am

oh well so much for riding the smiler when we go on june the 11th

hope we dont have another orphan rocker on our hands here
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon May 27, 2013 12:11 am

Not sure if this has been mentioned in the last few pages and I know Wikipedia isn't the most reliable source pace of information but this is a quote from the smiler page

"During overnight testing on the 23rd of May, problems with the trains caused severe scratching of the ride's paint and one train to valley in the middle of the course. Because of this, on May 24th, the entire X-Sector was cordoned-off so that a crane could remove the train.[28] The X-Sector reopened on Saturday the 25th."

To me this seems like a pretty good reason why the opening of the ride has been delayed  :shock:
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon May 27, 2013 12:12 am

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Whats the difference between valleying & stalling? My common sense tells me a stall is when it gets stuck, valleying is when it doesn't make it and then rolls backwards through the track and then forwards again until it eventually rests at its lowest point. (Like a valley)


You've answered your own question.

Stalling is a complete stop, valleying is when the coaster train moves back and forth then rests. The physics of the two are very different, so this explains the delay if it did valley.

The coaster is not designed to go backwards on this track, so that may have caused major damage to the track and to the wheels as the weight distribution/resultant forces will have been ALL WRONG.


Still thought I should of asked. Sometimes common sense isn't always the right answer. Luckily for me it was. At least I didn't sound too stupid.


B3N7AM1N.712 wrote:
Not sure if this has been mentioned in the last few pages and I know Wikipedia isn't the most reliable source pace of information but this is a quote from the smiler page

"During overnight testing on the 23rd of May, problems with the trains caused severe scratching of the ride's paint and one train to valley in the middle of the course. Because of this, on May 24th, the entire X-Sector was cordoned-off so that a crane could remove the train.[28] The X-Sector reopened on Saturday the 25th."

To me this seems like a pretty good reason why the opening of the ride has been delayed  :shock:


We know this anyway. Or should I say we are aware this may or may not be the reason. TT even added a news post about it earlier today :)
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon May 27, 2013 12:19 am

Dissapointing- but I'd much rather ride be right, safe and as many of the kinks signed off before it opens

I wonder house much all these delays are going to cost, and considering AT have probably had to pull all advertising bookings- which I imagine is a lot money wasted!
 
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon May 27, 2013 12:33 am

Sods Law is going all out on the smiler, delay after delay, problem after problem. AT management will be furious with all this, especially at the damage caused by the stalling train (it sounds as if it ground its way along the track instead of rolling). This ride is turning into what seems to be one huge headache for AT.

I think it might now be a June opening, to be honest I'd rather wait and let them get it right than for them to rush it.
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon May 27, 2013 12:37 am

Anyone want to guess the delay if they have to replace the bits of track that are damaged? :(

The damage makes the nice new black track look old now, it's so sad this has happened!
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon May 27, 2013 12:45 am

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Anyone want to guess the delay if they have to replace the bits of track that are damaged? :(

So thats most of the track so about 2 weeks for rebuild.  maybe 3 weeks more more extras and that is a complete guess (the 3 weeks part)
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon May 27, 2013 12:49 am

Sounds to me like a car lost a bearing on one of its wheels.  That is speculation :)

I normally read every single page of a topic, even if I have been away a few days.  But in this case, I'm afraid I dont think I will be doing so, as most of it is just 50 pages of speculative ranting and complaining!  Can we have a separate topic for 'Rants and Complaints'!!! ;)

Thanks again to Roodles who's thankful contribution to this forum is always one I look forward too!  Great pics again mate.  I am intrigued by these enclosed cattle pens!  Do we know roughly what percentage of the queue line is covered?
 
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon May 27, 2013 1:06 am

Absolute joke.
Thoroughly annoyed with this now.
If a 'major incident has occurred then they need to say that and not let us read about it third hand through an unofficial website.
I appreciate that it doesn't help market the ride, but this current day by day let down is hardly helping them either is it?
Starting to think it won't ever open to be honest.
Something is clearly seriously wrong here.
 
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon May 27, 2013 1:38 am

The Black Hole was SBNO now replaced with The Smiler.

The Smiler current Status: SBNO. funny is it not?

I am beginning to think that this area of X-Sector must be cursed! :lol:

It will go down in history as first Secret Weapon to be built but never open, The Smile that never was!
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon May 27, 2013 2:02 am

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The Black Hole was SBNO now replaced with The Smiler.

The Smiler current Status: SBNO. funny is it not?

I am beginning to think that this area of X-Sector must be cursed! :lol:

It will go down in history as first Secret Weapon to be built but never open, The Smile that never was!


You may have a point there.... It seems to be following a certain duelling German coaster seen many years ago that was never built

Also when building black hole wasn't there rumours of a headless horseman or something.... Either way both black hole and smiler aren't open due to H&S haha :/

Maybe soon we will #getcorrected
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon May 27, 2013 2:07 am

oh my goodness it's not cursed!

The Black Hole went cause it was it was 21 years old!

I've always found that area of the park to be blessedly nice. I liked the little rocks you could sit for almost no reason.
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon May 27, 2013 3:01 am

TheOutpatient wrote:
oh my goodness it's not cursed!

The Black Hole went cause it was it was 21 years old!

I've always found that area of the park to be blessedly nice. I liked the little rocks you could sit for almost no reason.


21 years isn't old for a ride. That's a baby.
 
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon May 27, 2013 5:44 am

No doubt AT Merlin have lost some revenue due too these set backs, At least we can expect a complete and well themed product. Once open it will make up for all of is shortcomings and will no doubt put AT back on the global stage.
I've read negative rubbish numerous times from multiple sources "wonder if it will it ever open" for example is just ridiculously stupid. Chill with all that.
 
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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Mon May 27, 2013 6:40 am

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jamesc wrote:
Anyone want to guess the delay if they have to replace the bits of track that are damaged? :(

So thats most of the track so about 2 weeks for rebuild.  maybe 3 weeks more more extras and that is a complete guess (the 3 weeks part)


Where are you getting this rubbish from? Most of the track? The problem area is from the camel hump through the Cobra roll and out of the other side, I reported this in my update, with photos.

This is pure speculation and guessing on something like this does not add to the discussion, we don't even know if the track needs replacing. Please stick to quality posts else risk having them removed.
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