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Storm Surge

Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:32 am

Well since developments are now taking place for 2011, I thought I would start the topic for Storm Surge.
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Re: THORPE PARK 2011

Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:56 am

I too will cry if it isn't re-painted. Surely it will. Surely.
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Re: THORPE PARK 2011

Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:17 pm

Looking at a video on youtube, I do not know how on earth this ride is going to fit in that small space. I feel this could go really well or badly wrong! :?
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Re: THORPE PARK 2011

Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:38 pm

I'm sure it will get repainted, as a multi-coloured slide would NEVER fit next to x no way out.

It looks like a really pointless ride, but I can't stop thinking about how slow and big the queue's will be for this when it opens.

Also, what do we think it will be themed as?
I think it will either be themed with the Lost City, or it will be part of Amity Cove, because the area it's going to be built in is too small for a new land.
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Re: THORPE PARK 2011

Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:45 pm

The park confirmed on Hub Mania that it will be themed around AMity Cove hillbillies! :? :P
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2011

Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:00 pm

What a crappy ride. Waste of space IMO, it should be sent back to the eighty's where it belongs.
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2011

Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:50 am

Seriously? They thought a great investment for a modern thrill ride park in the UK was a big water slide with dinghies? It's awful and what a waste of money, transporting across to here and dumping it in the middle of Thorpe. Someone seriously needs a new job. Either that or Merlin decided "Erm, sorry Thorpe no new rides you've had enough, here, have an RCT3 dingy thing from our new junk yard in Florida, I'm sure you can remove 8 rides to fit it in." :roll:

At least it will make the delapidated Depth Charge look good.

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Re: THORPE PARK 2011

Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:48 am

Thanks Spike. I thought i'd get a slating for my remark. :P
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2011

Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:40 am

Amity Cove Hillbillies? Amity Cove is a New England shipping village... they don't have hill billies.

I just think this is a pointless addition. It's basically another Depth Charge... I don't like water-rides in this country. For the one week a year its goes above 25 degrees it will be hideously busy.

Put a real ride in, Merlin. Not a slide.
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Re: THORPE PARK 2011

Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:00 pm

"THORPE PARK on Hub Mania" wrote:
We are currently in the process of finalising the name for the new ride in 2011 (subject to planning permission). We have already drawn up a shortlist of possible options to go into research…but wanted to see if our most dedicated fans on TPM had a cracker hiding in their locker that we could add in!

You already know what the ride is ([url=http://www.whitewate...ing_rapids.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://www.whitewate...ing_rapids.html[/url]), where it’s coming from and its current name, so here is the story summed up in one sentence for its new home in THORPE PARK:

The hillbilly residents of Amity have taken advantage of the recent tidal wave and have created an insane, sky-high, spinning water ride.

Please keep your thoughts and insight of the new development to the relevant thread (don’t worry, we do read them) and keep this purely as name suggestions…even if you believe Storm Surge is still right for the ride.
This was posted by Thorpe Park on Hub Mania a few months back. :)
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2011

Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:14 pm

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Amity Cove Hillbillies? Amity Cove is a New England shipping village... they don't have hill billies.

I just think this is a pointless addition. It's basically another Depth Charge... I don't like water-rides in this country. For the one week a year its goes above 25 degrees it will be hideously busy.

Put a real ride in, Merlin. Not a slide.


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So you could argue that these people with ravaged homes/living out of bins or whatever are hillbillies.

I however like to think that its just an excuse to not spend too much time, money, creativity or passion on theming.

I hope I'm wrong though.
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Re: THORPE PARK 2011

Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:28 am

I think the whole purpose of this slide is to try and get some of the bigger ride queues down. Surly Thorpe wouldnt have bought it for any other reason. Its more family orientated. Its being built purly to eat up queues. Looking at Thorpes MDTP, they indicated they plan to have something like 2.2 Million visitors a year, so I cant really see it working. Having said that, I do think its awful. I dont think it will fit in at all.
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2011

Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:46 pm

You're all wrong about this ride, it's a fantastic investment for Thorpe and here's why.

Thorpe have been growing up way too fast. In 2005 they added TWO new major rides for christ's sake. Now this looks great on the surface, but it means that you get a lot of rubbish. For every Rush you get three Slammers for example. If they weren't in such a rush over the last decade to jam pack the park with as many thrill rides as possible then maybe we'd have better quality additions. Imagine if Slammer had actually been a third and fourth arm for Rush.

Octopuses Garden was an embarrassment for Thorpe. Whatever you say about this ride not fitting in one of the continent's biggest theme parks, Octopuses Garden DEFINITELY didn't. It looked like a collection of kid's rides on Weston-Super-Mare pier or something.

The park need to slow down in their additions. They need more supporting rides, and this is absolutely perfect. It offers a totally different level of experience (not just focused on intensity), and one currently not offered at the park (especially as they have no water park).

I think a lot of criticism of the ride is based on a misconception of the ride itself. This ISN'T a cheap travelling rapids like it Lightwater or West Midlands. This is a seriously, hefty permanent ride. It's an infinite improvement over the eye-sore that was Octopuses Garden. It will provide a hugely needed GENUINE family ride. It's one of the very few rides you can say that every group except very small children will enjoy. Whatever you say about Thorpe, it does need at least SOME family rides.

Lastly, it does get pretty good reviews.

Thorpe can't add a thrill ride every year, so I don't know what people's problem is with a hugely fun, family rapids rafting attraction. People don't seem to have any problem with Parc Asterix having one and that's a much better themed park than Thorpe. And it's generally accepted as an important part of their line-up. You will all be eating your words next year. :)

p.s. am I the only one who just noticed that Octopus's Garden is a Beatles reference? :oops:
 
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:29 pm

I can only agree with what Spike has said about this new attraction.

Its alright having filler rides, but surely they could of come up with something better?
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:22 pm

I think that we'd all agree that Octopus Garden is a state and an embarrassment but I don't think thats any reason to grab the nearest merlin cast off and shove it in that spot. There's heaps of family rides that could replace the Kiddies area and there's no rush to add anything in my opinion. Even if they ripped the kids rides out and put a small stage area in for now would be better than jumping head first into an attraction just because its cheap.
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2011

Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:35 pm

What a poor addition to an already poor park.
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2011

Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:15 pm

"Sam" wrote:
You're all wrong about this ride, it's a fantastic investment for Thorpe and here's why.

Thorpe have been growing up way too fast. In 2005 they added TWO new major rides for christ's sake. Now this looks great on the surface, but it means that you get a lot of rubbish. For every Rush you get three Slammers for example. If they weren't in such a rush over the last decade to jam pack the park with as many thrill rides as possible then maybe we'd have better quality additions. Imagine if Slammer had actually been a third and fourth arm for Rush.


Erm a long shot here but maybe it's because S&S haven't designed them to have three or four arms? :roll:

To be honest Sam the above comment is more a selfish like of your own rather than a good business move. Why do supermarkets constantly do offers? They got the two rides as a package deal and it was one area Thorpe were lacking anything major in at the time. It lead to area revamps and two unique rides. Whilst I don't personally like Rush I wouldn't turn around and say it's a waste of money and they should have bought two Slammers.

As for all being wrong. Who died and made you knower of all rides and opinions? :P


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I think a lot of criticism of the ride is based on a misconception of the ride itself. This ISN'T a cheap travelling rapids like it Lightwater or West Midlands. This is a seriously, hefty permanent ride. It's an infinite improvement over the eye-sore that was Octopuses Garden. It will provide a hugely needed GENUINE family ride. It's one of the very few rides you can say that every group except very small children will enjoy. Whatever you say about Thorpe, it does need at least SOME family rides.


No they don't, it's no secret that Merlins London park's business model is clear. They have 2 family parks in close proximity to one another. Why is it Thorpe markets themselves with such a teenage image? The people have sex on the map the "hip" graphics etc. It makes no bones about what it is. It is a Thrill Park and there for does not need a good variety of Family attractions. You want that you visit Chessy or Legoland.

This ride is not major nor is it expensive. It is a cheap water slide however you dress it up.


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Thorpe can't add a thrill ride every year, so I don't know what people's problem is with a hugely fun, family rapids rafting attraction.


Yes they can, I suggest you look at their 5 year plan where it clearly shows that that is exactly what they plan to do. :P

As for the ride? It maybe fun, yes, but it's not a good ride for Thorpe to invest in really.
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Re: THORPE PARK 2011

Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:24 pm

"Spike" wrote:
No they don't, it's no secret that Merlins London park's business model is clear. They have 2 family parks in close proximity to one another. Why is it Thorpe markets themselves with such a teenage image? The people have sex on the map the "hip" graphics etc. It makes no bones about what it is. It is a Thrill Park and there for does not need a good variety of Family attractions. You want that you visit Chessy or Legoland.

Problem is, Thorpe really shouldn't be excluding the family market altogether. Of course, they're focus is now on thrills, and that's fine - as you point out, Chessie and Legoland nearby cater for families on the whole, but regardless of their aim, Thorpe will always have families visiting.

For instance, a family with three kids, aged 17, 15 and 8. Thorpe is clearly suitable for the 17 and 15 year old's, so the family may well visit, but the 8 year old is going to get extremely bored. Although the park isn't mainly aimed at him, it should cater to him at least to a small amount.

Other than that, would agree with the other points in your post.
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2011

Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:06 pm

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Problem is, Thorpe really shouldn't be excluding the family market altogether. Of course, they're focus is now on thrills, and that's fine - as you point out, Chessie and Legoland nearby cater for families on the whole, but regardless of their aim, Thorpe will always have families visiting.

For instance, a family with three kids, aged 17, 15 and 8. Thorpe is clearly suitable for the 17 and 15 year old's, so the family may well visit, but the 8 year old is going to get extremely bored. Although the park isn't mainly aimed at him, it should cater to him at least to a small amount.

Other than that, would agree with the other points in your post.


No they shouldn't exclude famalies as a whole but if they start going down the route of making it a half and half park they will rob Peter to pay Paul so to speak.

Legoland is purely aimed at youngsters. Chessington has the right balance to keep your family suggestion happy, where as Thorpe remains, the brap teen park full of puke machines and thrill coasters. If mum & dad were to join the teens (which many don't want to go with Mum & Dad at that age) :wink: then there are some rides still there of appeal. They market themselves for hen & Stag parties they focus all there marketing to a teen audience so offering family rides would just confuse the system, although i agree they have to have a few which they already do to be honest.

I just think for a park with an already uselessly crap capacity water slide and an outdoor pool, a dingy slide is such a lazy and poor investment. It will probably be a laugh but it will just look rediculous.
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Re: THORPE PARK 2011

Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:29 pm

"Spike""][quote=""Sam" wrote:
You're all wrong about this ride, it's a fantastic investment for Thorpe and here's why.

Thorpe have been growing up way too fast. In 2005 they added TWO new major rides for christ's sake. Now this looks great on the surface, but it means that you get a lot of rubbish. For every Rush you get three Slammers for example. If they weren't in such a rush over the last decade to jam pack the park with as many thrill rides as possible then maybe we'd have better quality additions. Imagine if Slammer had actually been a third and fourth arm for Rush.


Erm a long shot here but maybe it's because S&S haven't designed them to have three or four arms? :roll:

To be honest Sam the above comment is more a selfish like of your own rather than a good business move. Why do supermarkets constantly do offers? They got the two rides as a package deal and it was one area Thorpe were lacking anything major in at the time. It lead to area revamps and two unique rides. Whilst I don't personally like Rush I wouldn't turn around and say it's a waste of money and they should have bought two Slammers.

As for all being wrong. Who died and made you knower of all rides and opinions? :P[/quote]
I meant buy two and put them next to each other! It would have been amazingly visual impressive. I'm not sure, but I think that the public hugely prefer Rush to Slammer. Non-enthusiasts I speak to all rave about Rush, and either can't remember, didn't go on, or got hurt on Slammer.

Haha I wasn't being serious about me knowing more than you, was mickey taking of Robb Alvey. Anyway, I'm still pretty sure it'll be a fantastic small addition and will look absolutely fine once landscaped and themed. You'll all be eating your words. :P
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