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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:12 pm

I'm going to reserve judgement on it until I've done it. I've not been reading reviews so I'm not really sure what to expect.

I've never really wanted to watch any of the films and if its too grim I doubt I'll be going through more than once
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:45 pm

After doing all the scare mazes at Thorpe's Fright Nights last year, I like scare mazes, but I won't be going in Saw Alive. The whole principle of the Saw films is just too sick for me, as Diogoj42 described it... it's just "torture porn". I know that the target audience for the films is kids 5 years younger than the 18 certificate, but I can't see any way that Thorpe can justify calling Saw Alive "extreme horrow" and "the world's most extreme horror attaction" and deem it suitable for 12 year-olds.

I don't know what sort of certification live acting requires, but my gut feeling is that if a walk-through video of Saw Alive was recorded for broadcast it wouldn't have a 12A certificate.

As for the map - yes, bits of it are funny and I'm sure if I look carefully I'll find all sorts to make me smile. But if I look carefully I'll find all sorts of stuff that makes me think that I'm definitely not Thorpe's target audience. Shame, because when it comes to thrill rides Thorpe just has the edge over Alton (maybe 13 will throw the balance back in Alton's favour).
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:32 pm

"chrismci" wrote:
After doing all the scare mazes at Thorpe's Fright Nights last year, I like scare mazes, but I won't be going in Saw Alive. The whole principle of the Saw films is just too sick for me, as Diogoj42 described it... it's just "torture porn". I know that the target audience for the films is kids 5 years younger than the 18 certificate, but I can't see any way that Thorpe can justify calling Saw Alive "extreme horrow" and "the world's most extreme horror attaction" and deem it suitable for 12 year-olds.

I don't know what sort of certification live acting requires, but my gut feeling is that if a walk-through video of Saw Alive was recorded for broadcast it wouldn't have a 12A certificate.


In their defence, have you ever seen a SAW film? Now, they're alright films. As far as the franchise goes, its one of those things where on first view its deemed as wrong, gross and down write inappropriate. But if you were to watch one of the films you'd realise how interesting and stunning the story line is. Thus I personally wouldn't brand it as "Torture porn." (However, I would brand the likes of Hostel as "Torture Porn")

Having said that... Thorpe seem to be focusing on the aspect of gore rather than the story here. So yes, i agree with you to an extent.
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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:17 pm

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In their defence, have you ever seen a SAW film? Now, they're alright films. ...


Yes, I watched the first Saw film thinking it would be clever like Seven, I was disappointed. I've also watched one of the later Saw films - Saw V, I think. Whilst I don't doubt there is an underlying story that is quite clever, I'd also be extremely surprised if the majority of viewers are watching for any reason other than the clever and graphic ways people end up dead. I did try to watch The Hostel, but that was one I just had to turn over.
Anyway, I don't want to drift the thread off-topic with a critique of the films.

Even a Saw film fan wouldn't claim that the films are suitable for a 12 year-old audience would they? So an attraction that is based on the extreme horror of the franchise that is suitable for 12 year-olds is either going to disappoint the fans, or be unsuitable for the younger teens.
But then how many 12 year-olds will have seen all the Saw films already... when I were a lad... it was Nightmare on Elm Street that you tried to watch on video in your mid-teens. I guess Saw is the current generation's Elm Street.

I'll reserve judement until after I've read more than just the press previews.
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:25 pm

I have seen many Saw films and I think the story line is fantastic and I love how at end everything unfolds and makes sense however there just way too gory for me! That's all...

But SAW - The Ride is great and I love the whole "Live or die, make your choice" its cool but the films IMO are too over the top with gore. I prefer comedy and romantic films myself although love a few horrors.
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:08 am

The people complaining about Saw: Alive, saying it'll harm children...that is abit OTT, I don't expect it to blow my mind but as was mentioned a few posts back, I'm going to go with an open mind, I wont judge it until I've actually tried it. Also people are saying it's dreadful what they're doing and to try and back up that point they put 4 pictures in The Sun but I bet those are the worst 4 pictures the paper could get. I shall come back tomorrow evening and tell you about the goings on and will release some spoilers.
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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:36 am

Don't think this has been posted yet: Break in caught on camera at SAW Alive.

Reminds me a bit of the videos Walt Disney Studios in Paris made for the Tower of Terror. Not a bad little video...
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:25 pm

That video is great, very amature. I knew there was going to be a jumpy bit but it caught me out! Pretty scary. I can see this being a crazy maze during fright nights :S
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:46 pm

"Mankey" wrote:
In their defence, have you ever seen a SAW film? Now, they're alright films. As far as the franchise goes, its one of those things where on first view its deemed as wrong, gross and down write inappropriate. But if you were to watch one of the films you'd realise how interesting and stunning the story line is. Thus I personally wouldn't brand it as "Torture porn." (However, I would brand the likes of Hostel as "Torture Porn")

Having said that... Thorpe seem to be focusing on the aspect of gore rather than the story here. So yes, i agree with you to an extent.


Agreed, although the premise of the films is starting to become redundant now (should have stopped after 3 IMO), the first film has one of the only twists I was totally blind to for the whole film, the first shines out over all of the rest of them..

Oh and calling it torture porn? Would you call Se7en(1995) that? one of the best movies of its kind, rated #26 in the top 250 movies on IMDB. Sometimes the gore is necessary for a film to put across just how disgusting a persons mind can be... If you're looking at the gore in these films and just going 'eeeewww' or 'coooool' then your'e missing the point of it...

I personally am looking forward to a trip round this maze, especially if they manage to capture any of the mood and desperation of the first movie.
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Re: Thorpe Park: Future Discussion

Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:57 pm

From StreetView:

Not much is happening with Thorpe Farm at the moment. Photos taken mid-2009.

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Potbellies signage still in place.
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Thorpe Farm signage still in place.
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You can see the farm yourself by visiting Coldharbour Lane in Chertsey.
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:45 pm

Tidal Wave + Dr. Pepper = THORPE PARK's first ever ride with two or more sponsors.
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:59 pm

Is Tidal Wave now sponsored by Dr Pepper, then? I guess that is not so bad.

*Stifles urge to scream at that thought of money grabbing corporate baddies*

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Oh my word! I have seen photos! How awful! :cry: How could they? They can't slap on the words: "Dr Pepper PRESENTS TIDAL WAVE!" just like that! The ride has been around for ten years now, so it isn't some cheap, unimportant attraction purely for the advertisment of Dr Pepper like the signage says it is.

At least it isn't all over the place... I hope...
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:25 pm

I'm pretty much too scared to ask, but...

...could you link to these photos? :cry:
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:41 pm

Link please, if true Thorpe Park are really loosing it... I ask why? Two sponsors of 1 great ride?
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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:59 pm

Photographs on Mania Hub Forum. Pier 13 has had an extreme makeover!
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:44 pm

Just had a lengthy look... :x

Found some pictures and it is indeed now sponsored by Dr Pepper on a two year contract. Glad it is no longer! :mrgreen:
Pics: http://forum.maniahub.com/topic/151-tidal-wave/page__st__280 (near the bottom)

Shame on Thorpe, original source and Dr Pepper now sponsor Tidal Wave. Perhaps giving Tidal Wave the spruce of life she REALLY needs.
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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

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Yep, there they are. Hm, I wish they hadn't done it. By the way, Original Source stuff has all been removed, so there are not actually two companies doing it at least. :wink: I guess it is not too bad and I am glad to hear it is only a two year contract. Though can they be bothered to remove the logos when the contract ends? They couldn't with the old Original Source or Ribean sponsorships.
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:39 am

Actually, the PZ Cussons sponsorship ended at the end of 2009, at the same time as Bubbleworks and The Flume. Nestlé's contract with Stealth has also run out now, though I'm not sure they'll remove all of the Yorkie logos.
 
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Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:00 pm

I am not talking about PZ Cussons, I said Original Source has now finished and been removed. However, you are right, Imperial Leather have now stopped sponsoring Bubbleworks and the Flume (AT LAST! :twisted: ), but will a new sponsor come along and dump their logos on these rides now? We have seen the queueline of Laser Raiders at Legoland filled with totally uneeded adverts for 'Egyptair' last year, so it looks like awful decisions like this are simply not going to stop.

I dislike sponsorships. If I am to get a job in this type of stuff, I would make sure that sponsorships do not happen or at least are not so in your face and actually suit the attraction. I am sure they are great with getting loads of extra money, but some of the best rides never had sponsorships, did they?

Nemesis had no need to be sponsored by anything, and it wasn't. Result: completely unspoilt ride. Air's sponsorship with Cadbury was very calm and didn't make the ride feel like an advert, so it was fine. Tidal Wave was doing fine for the first few years, but along came the businessmen and realised they could somehow find a way to grab even more dosh. Some rides these days are even payed for by the sponsorship! And look how they all turned out: hardly anything to do with the supposeded theme is Sonic Spinball; Bubbleworks was butchered by some soap company; and now there is a big ugly splatted logo on there floor with Tidal Wave (ooh, great place to put it, because then loads of people would see it when they are getting wet in the big wave :roll: ).

Who cares about the quality of the ride? We have MONEY! :|
 
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Re: THORPE PARK 2010

Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:24 pm

You claim that they couldn't be bothered to remove Original Source logos. Well, they have haven't they? And Original Source is owned by PZ Cussons, and they ended their sponsorship when the 2009 season ended.

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