Someone missed April Fools by a few days... :|

I swear most of that information is wrong as well... As the island is nowhere near Treasure Island (which was near where the train used to go), it's not a water coaster (and even if it has a splashzone, Raptor has one already), the plans look slightly too modern vehicular wise for it to still be Amity and is basically having it's own island...

2 out of 5 ain't bad I guess... #-o

I'm probably a bit behind on all of this - and apologies that I can't be bothered to trawl through the previous 36 pages looking for an answer - but while the plans for LC12 looks awesome in pretty much every way conceivable, I had noticed that the ride looks short. Very short. Exactly the sort of thing Merlin love to build actually.

Could someone tell me if the ride is as short as the plans seem to show? How does it compare length-wise with Raptor (which looks like quite a nice length)?

Oh, and the inversion into the first drop is inspired. Very RCT3 :)

I'd say they were about the same length relatively.

Raptor:

Drop -> Over Bank Turn -> 'Corkscrew' -> Air Time Hill, 270 turn into a 'Zero-G' -> S-Turn, to an extent into a In-Line Twist -> Drop, Turn -> Brakes

LC12:

Drop/Dive Loop -> 'Zero-G' -> Tilted Loop/360 turn -> 180 turn into a 'Zero-G' -> 180 turn into a In-Line Twist ->Trim Brake -> 230ish turn -> Brakes

Obviously that's just approximating. But I reckon the layout will feel about the same length.
:)

Thanks. Clearly more to the layout than I could make out from the plans.

Plus, I found mention on Theme Park Tourist that LC12 will apparently "not exceed 2788ft in length". If RCDB is accurate about Raptor (2526ft), we could be looking at a marginally longer coaster here (which would make sense, with being about 60ft taller).

I'm excited about this :) I basically have no choice but to visit Thorpe in 2012.

This recreation should help you get an idea of the layout and ride duration [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeIwvuRvqIQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeIwvuRvqIQ[/url].
:)

Given that Raptor has today received a bland review from someone on CoasterForce and that it looks incredibly slow and lacking element intensity, I can see LC12 being a major disappointment.

I liked Thirteen when I first rode it though, despite the masses of disappointment people had with that - so who knows!

Coasters will always have positive and negative reviews... I reckon LC12 will be either the best or second best ride at TP.

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First ive ever seen of LC12 today and looks pretty impressive.
Hopefully it wont have anything on whats coming in 2013 though :)

We can't base the B&M wingriders on one review, we must wait for more first :mrgreen:

The site below has gone live today, which is meant to begin the buid up / hype for LC12.

[url=http://lc12.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://lc12.net/[/url]

Not sure what the countdown is relating to, as that is a day in early August, perhaps a mini site or announcement.
I'm not really sure that using recent catastrophic events is a great way to promote and build up hype for a new coaster. :?

content="whyareyoulookinghereyoushouldbelookingforthem,lc12,2012,the end,the truth,danger,warning">

Interesting bit in the source code... Who is looking for what and why?

I've only seen this site via Twitter links so forgive me if they have put it out officially, but I can't see it being anything to do with Thorpe or Merlin.

As has been said, why would a date of midday on 1 August be relevant to the rollercoaster project? I also find it bizzare that they are using the international biohazard symbol on the page. Also, as people have said, using recent events is unnaccptable and they would be rightly hammered for doing that.

Hmm, dodgy ground given all the natural disasters, genocide etc. Happening around the world at the moment!

Still, very Thorpe Park!

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All the government conspiracy rubbish as well. I doubt that'd ever be brought into the theme. It has to be someone having a laugh or is just something completely different, although a 'thorpepark' username is in the source code.

"Tom G" wrote:

I've only seen this site via Twitter links so forgive me if they have put it out officially, but I can't see it being anything to do with Thorpe or Merlin.

http://www.whois.net/whois/lc12.net - Sorry to burst your bubble, but its real ;)

It was no bubble, I was kind of trying to convince myself they couldn't be that retarded.

Wow, well where to start! :D

Firstly, I'd like to nip in the bud the debate over whether it's real or not. Firstly, the site does show a level of professional design that I'd expect from a big company. Secondly, the whois website is very reliable. Thirdly, if this was a hoax then surely they'd have tried to make us believe something more silly or weird, otherwise it'd be pretty pointless.

Part of me wants to get really offended. The only thing to get offended about is the use of the Japanese earthquake. But you know what? Actually I think this is bloody cool. I've always thought rides have never really explored truly dark themes. I like the idea of them tying it in to real world disasters, I think it's pretty awesome for a coaster actually.

It definitely seems to confirm that the Mayan prediction of the end of the world in 2012 is the theme, specifically. I really hope that nuclear warning symbol is the logo of the ride, it's beautifully simple.

On the website itself, the phrase "help me uncover, help me warn" strongly implies there'll be some sort of online game, like Gardaland did, and I'll be amazed if there isn't.

"earthquakesSF SF QuakeBot retweetet by LC12net " wrote:

A 1.0 magnitude earthquake occurred 2.49 mi SW of San Ramon, CA. Details: [url=http://eqbot.com/Enq" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://eqbot.com/Enq[/url] Map: [url=http://eqbot.com/En6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://eqbot.com/En6[/url]

I wonder if Thorpe know that 1.0 is an earthquake so weak you literally wouldn't notice it, and they happen all the time. :P

Well, very Thorpe I suppose but somewhat controversial; some people aren't going to take too kindly to Thorpe using recent disasters in their marketing. I just hope they are careful with what they do or no doubt the media will pick up on it and give them a bit of a hard time.

But to be more positive, it's good that marketing like this is already taking place. It will be very interesting to see what the countdown is for, the start of construction maybe? Either that or it could be counting down to a big public announcement as people who haven't seen the plans won't really know what is happening.

:)

"Rob" wrote:

Well, very Thorpe I suppose but somewhat controversial; some people aren't going to take too kindly to Thorpe using recent disasters in their marketing. I just hope they are careful with what they do or no doubt the media will pick up on it and give them a bit of a hard time.

Rob, I think the golden rules that applies here is "any publicity is good publicity".

Thorpe want the Daily Mail and the like to write outraged "offended" articles. It basically buys them a huge advert in the newspaper for free. It's unlikely that the kind of person who might visit Thorpe anyway would get so offended by it that they'd refuse to go. They're going it on purpose in my opinion, and they probably deliberately wound up that pilot's union to get publicity too. :)