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Re: TTF Euro Coaster Poll 2010-11: GROUP 1, ROUND 4: VOTE NOW!

Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:17 pm

The National all the way. Along with Nemesis its a coaster I feel I inherited a love of from my father. Its rare I have a conversation with anyone about coasters and The Grand National doesn't rear its wooden head. Its a national institution, a grand national institution, ahaha. I feel I would be doing a disservice to Queen and Country not voting for her.

Millenium Coaster ain't that bad, all things considered. I kinda like the ridiculousness of the layout. But it was certainly a favourite ride of the day back when I went with RCCGB in 2002, as Jubilee Odyssey only made it round the track twice all day.

Btw, the link to Matterhorn Blitz's RCDB profile takes you to Jubilee Odyssey :?
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Re: TTF Euro Coaster Poll 2010-11: GROUP 1, ROUND 4: VOTE NOW!

Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:33 am

I don't quite see what all the fuss is with the Grand National, sure it's a decent woodie, but that's about it, I actually find it very rough and painful at times, which hardly makes it enjoyable! It probably deserves to get through, but I'll be disappointed to see it win the group.

I'm going to have to vote for Katun, it is very close to the top of my must ride coasters list, and I've backed it in this poll for the last couple of years. It didn't even make it to the final last year which I thought was a real shame, as in my opinion it's a contender for the title!


Lisebergbanan also looks like a decent coaster, and I do have a soft spot for Huracan and it's lovely little airtime bump! But Katun is the stand out coaster in this group!

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Re: TTF Euro Coaster Poll 2010-11: GROUP 1, ROUND 4: VOTE NOW!

Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:56 am

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EDIT - Adz, Millennium Coaster looks rubbish. Wish you'd bother voting for what actually looks decent. :clap:


But it is decent, and it's a smooth Vekoma.

Alot better than The Ultimate imo.
 
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Re: TTF Euro Coaster Poll 2010-11: GROUP 1, ROUND 4: VOTE NOW!

Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:06 am

"Ritadz""][quote=""AstroDan" wrote:
EDIT - Adz, Millennium Coaster looks rubbish. Wish you'd bother voting for what actually looks decent. :clap:


But it is decent, and it's a smooth Vekoma.

Alot better than The Ultimate imo.
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Yes but do you really think that it's the best coaster in the group?

REALLY?

The fact that you think it's better than The Ultimate is irrelevant anyway, the Ultimate isn't even in this group..

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Re: TTF Euro Coaster Poll 2010-11: GROUP 1, ROUND 4: VOTE NOW!

Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:40 am

"Joe Koopa""][quote=""Ritadz""][quote=""AstroDan" wrote:
EDIT - Adz, Millennium Coaster looks rubbish. Wish you'd bother voting for what actually looks decent. :clap:


But it is decent, and it's a smooth Vekoma.

Alot better than The Ultimate imo.
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The fact that you think it's better than The Ultimate is irrelevant anyway[/quote]

No it isn't, and i never said it was in this group.

Of course it's not my best in the group, Katun is, but that will 100% defiantly go through, so there's no point.

 
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Re: TTF Euro Coaster Poll 2010-11: GROUP 1, ROUND 4: VOTE NOW!

Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:45 am

"Ritadz""][quote=""Joe Koopa""][quote=""Ritadz""][quote=""AstroDan" wrote:
EDIT - Adz, Millennium Coaster looks rubbish. Wish you'd bother voting for what actually looks decent. :clap:


But it is decent, and it's a smooth Vekoma.

Alot better than The Ultimate imo.
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The fact that you think it's better than The Ultimate is irrelevant anyway[/quote]

No it isn't, and i never said it was in this group.
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Well, it kinda is. Okay, lots of people are backing The Ultimate to win but does that mean using "well it's better than The Ultimate" as an excuse to vote for an average coaster in every round right?

and if everyone avoids voting for Katun because it's guaranteed to win anyway, it's not gonna get very far is it?

;)
 
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Re: TTF Euro Coaster Poll 2010-11: GROUP 1, ROUND 4: VOTE NOW!

Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:45 pm

If you think Katun is the best in the group - then vote for it. I would suspect Grand National will win this group because it's at Blackpool, ancient and many people really rate it highly inspite of Katun's worldwide acclaim.
 
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Re: TTF Euro Coaster Poll 2010-11: GROUP 1, ROUND 4: VOTE NOW!

Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:04 pm

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I still fail to see the "bucket loads" of airtime on the Nash. Sure, there is some - but it's hardly as profound as many other rollercoasters (and woodies!). Also, it is not intense. Joris en de Draak, Troy, Tonnerre de Zeus and Gwazi are all more intense (apart from the double dip) I would argue! I really haven't a clue where this overrated view of the Nash comes from. OK - it's old - and I do like it - so credit for that, but still... I have been on 4 better Wooden coasters!

Having only been on Joris on that list, I'd say that the Nash has a lot more airtime! Of course airtime isn't an opinion, it's a measurable fact, so one must more airtime but it's a matter of debate of which it is. We'll have to wait for someone to do a scientific study on it. :P

The double down after the station fly-over was the only moment on Joris I felt a huge amount of airtime on that ride. Don't get me wrong, I love it, but I think the Nash is better. Think of the airtime the Nash has on its MENTAL first double-drop, then on the "Valentines" hill, then on the second double drop...

Interestingly, it seems the modern trend for double coasters is to have them dueling like Joris. That's great, but it means for a lot of the layout you're not next to the other train. I prefer the Nash style of just having the two tracks run side-by-side throughout the ride, so (if it was bloody run properly) the trains have that interaction all the way through. :)
 
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Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:47 pm

I think Joris is better than Nash - the twisty layout, banked corners, little dips all over the place. Just adds up to more than Nash which, for a ride of its age is superb - but it doesn't for me quite hold up against most of the more modern Woodies that I have been on.

Certainly in this group, Katun is hands down the best coaster in my opinion.
 
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Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:52 pm

Quite a good group here but their is only three coaster that stand out here for me.

Katun
This is one hell of a coaster, and what do you expect? Its a bloomin' B&M invert. Thier are no boring sections during the ride and its got a quite good duration. A very strong coaster in the poll.

Lisebergbanan
Its a Schwarzkopf enough said. No, but really its a great family coaster and I love the use of the terrain and it does not look that rough. I can't really fin nothing wrong with it and I would look out for this coaster as its quite a strong contender.

Millennium Coaster
Millennium Coaster is the only ride i've rode out of the group and its possibly one of the smoothest rides I have ever ridden and thats quite big saying Millennium Coaster is a Vekoma. The only thing I don't really enjoy about this ride is that it can be very boring, especially at the end of the ride when it does a couple of small bunny hops and a helix.

So out of the three that I think are the strongest coasters in the group i'm going to have to vote for Lisebergbanan but Katun came very close.
 
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Re: TTF Euro Coaster Poll 2010-11: GROUP 1, ROUND 4: VOTE NOW!

Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:53 pm

I don't know what the big 'hoo harr' about Mellennium Coaster is about, to be honest. The only thing it has got going for it is the smooth ride, not a lot else. Also, it isn't a rarity for Vekomas to be smooth. Pretty much all their non inverting dark coasters are butter smooth... as are the mine trains, launched (motorbike) and the newer generation SLC's (I'm told). Seems like an odd reason to vote for a ride simply because Vekoma generally aren't renowned for creating smooth inverting rides, yet on this occasion they got it right (in the area of ride comfort).
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Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:38 pm

Indeed!

In all honesty, although I haven't been on Millennium Coaster - from POV's it looks really very, very bland.
 
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Re: TTF Euro Coaster Poll 2010-11: GROUP 1, ROUND 4: VOTE NOW!

Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:08 pm

Agreed on the two posts above. I understand voting rides which look like interesting concepts (Tranan) or for ones with superb theming (Die Vliegende Hollander in the other topic) but Millennium Coaster is neither themed superbly nor does it do anything interesting. Okay, it's a Vekoma... and it's smooth. So what?! Even if it WAS the only smooth Vekoma (which it isn't) it doesn't stop it from being the dull, bland pile of yellow poo that it looks.

I'm sorry but I find it VERY difficult to argue that Millennium Coaster is better than Katun, Lisebergbanan and Grand National. Heck, I'd ride a bumpy looper (say Colossus) over a smooth one which does nothing interesting.
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Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:26 pm

Voted for Nash.

It's an incredible ride, it has incredible airtime, unadulterated wildness, shocking but lovely roughness, and in general everything a classic woodie should be. The fact it's a racer, a Moebius one at that, and older than time itself makes this stunning coaster even more amazing.

Second would be Katun, that thing looks epic, followed by Liserbergbananananananana, because who doesn't love a Swarzy terrain coaster?
 
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Re: TTF Euro Coaster Poll 2010-11: GROUP 1, ROUND 4: VOTE NOW!

Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:42 pm

This round has been bugging me for days but I've finally decided Lisebergbanan. Grand Nation has some excellent moments but also some quite average ones. Lisebergbanan is all round good and no matter how many times I force myself to vote Katun It just feels so sterile. Big and impressive yes but the bark seems better than the bite.
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Re: TTF Euro Coaster Poll 2010-11: GROUP 1, ROUND 4: VOTE NOW!

Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:51 pm

For me its between Nash, Lisebergbanana and Katun. Classic racing woodie Vs Schwarzkopf terrain coaster Vs massive B&M invert. Tough choice, Nash loses points for its new trains being far worse than the ones they replaced and the appalling ride operations for me, but its still one of my top rides, especially towards the back of the train when its running at full throttle.

I'm not sure which other rides I'd like to see go through, apart from maybe Tranan for its uniqueness. Rage has a clone that's themed and doesn't have a garish colour scheme. Huracan is supposedly unpleasantly rough (quote TPR: "45s of getting the cr*p beaten out of you"). Furius Baco is definitely unpleasantly rough. Millennium Coaster doesn't interest me at all, borrowing from the Shockwave school of coaster design by including the longest straight bit of track possible. Matterhorn Blitz - a very well themed mouse coaster, and the lift is pretty cool, but the ride itself is rather bland. That leaves Minetrain Ulven, which is a similar ride system to Th13teen but with a significantly more substantial layout, if we could have had that weaving through the "dark forest" before going into the crypt Th13teen probably wouldn't have come in for so much criticism.

Which leaves Minetrain Ulven, Tranan, Lisebergbanan, Nash and Katun as my somewhat unusual top 5
 
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Re: TTF Euro Coaster Poll 2010-11: GROUP 1, ROUND 4: VOTE NOW!

Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:09 pm

5. Mine Train Ulven
4. Tranan (purely for the concept)
3. Grand National
2. Katun
1. Lisbergbanan

I really like the look of Lisbergbanan, it looks pretty fun. (Even though Katun is probabably the strongest on paper).
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Re: TTF Euro Coaster Poll 2010-11: GROUP 1, ROUND 4: VOTE NOW!

Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:37 pm

Doh! Missed the poll end by 11 minutes :( Knew it finished today but thought it was later for some reason.

Anyway, my vote would have gone to Lisebergbanan or Katun so wouldn't have made any difference to the results at all.

Looks like we have another tie-break :)
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Re: TTF Euro Coaster Poll 2010-11: GROUP 1, ROUND 4: VOTE NOW!

Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:36 pm

I'm surprised Rage didn't get any votes, but not surprised that the other Eurofighter and mine train didn't.

Shame Falken didn't get another vote, I'd much prefer that to go through than Furius Backache or Millennium Coaster, so I'm going for Matterhorn Blitz in the tie break.
 
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Re: TTF Euro Coaster Poll 2010-11: GROUP 1, ROUND 4: VOTE NOW!

Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:46 pm

Oh dear...

...on the one hand I see that Katun, Nash and Liseberg-banana definitely deserved all the votes, however having 2 coasters out of Furius Baco, Millennium Coaster and Matterhorn Blitz going through is annoying, as I think thy were the three weakest coasters in the group.

Furius Baco will get my vote in the tie-break as although it's supposedly horrible, I've heard lots of good reviews of it as well and I'd take it over the other two coasters in less than a second.

I'm still finding it difficult to believe that people ACTUALLY voted for Matterhorn Blitz and Millennium Coaster. They both look pretty rubbish, I hope Matterhorn gets through as it's well themed rubbish. :roll:
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