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Industry General Discussion

Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:33 pm

Industry Talk is the place to discuss opinions and news on trends and technology in the ever developing amusement industry.

I'll start us off.
Blooloop posted an article about a patent filed by Disney:
Disney has filed a patent for a system that would allow ride vehicles on gravity-based attractions to change their position during the course of the track.
The system would allow fast moving roller-coaster vehicles to face left or right during the ride. This technology is rarely found on fast moving rides due to charging issues, making the development a new innovation.
The patent application is titled “Roller Coaster with Passenger Compartment Motion Powered Through Stored Onboard Energy.”
The patent explains that the technology can be integrated into existing rides: “a ride can be updated and modified by providing new show or visual features along the track that are visible not only as the vehicles travel in the DOT [direction of travel] but also on one or both sides of the track.”
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I think the most interesting part of this is the fact that it can be added to existing rides. Which rides might suit this?
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Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:21 am

Spaceship Earth. The ride is getting a massive refurbishment.
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Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:41 pm

Almost certainly for Guardians of the Galaxy based on what's rumoured about the ride. Will allow the coaster to go a lot faster than Gringotts can whilst in a controlled spin.

Not a massive fan of broad patents like these, would have thought charging a powered coaster ride via induction chargers was a fairly obvious application of existing technology, just not implemented much because of the costs involved.
 
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Re: Industry Talk

Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:18 pm

Blooloop posted the article Paying the price for your theme park (and parking) experience today. I urge you to give it a read as it is interesting.
It gives an in-depth look at recent trends regarding pricing strategies.
If the merlin parks were open every day of the season I think they would benefit from a peak/off-peak tiered ticketing scheme to help spread the crowds.
The new Bobbejaanland Pay-as-you-go is also praised in the article. I think that'd be a brilliant idea for more parks.
It also discusses parking fees and at what price they become unviable.
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Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:53 pm

The only way I could see Merlin doing this is having a higher than normal price on peak days and then a regular price structure on regular days.

The reason I could see them doing a ‘value’ style pricing is if Alton Towers chooses to become a 365 day park where what currently is offseason there is a reduced FHT style lineup albeit a cheaper entry price. It would appeal to people who want to ride one certain ride and won’t mind missing out on another ride because they are paying less.
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Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:03 pm

More patents, this time from universal
http://universal.wdwinfo.com/multiple-n ... sal-parks/

The LED system for harnesses seems like a good idea in theory but in practice I don't think it would save any time. I think you're still going to need a manual check, the risk of a sensor being faulty and a rider leaving the station with  a harness that could spring open is way too high.

That flying motion simulator system looks interesting, especially with the version that looks suspiciously like a Broomstick but... Can Universal get away with another screen attraction?
 
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Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:54 pm

I didn't much understand the LED patent, other than to get a patent. Most rides have some sort of on the ground notification system. A couple use LEDs too.
 
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Re: Industry Talk

Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:00 am

Don’t Gerstlauer have the triple LEDs on the back of each seat? Aren’t they providing another visual confirmation of a locked harness? I always assumed they were, never actually looked it up though. 
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Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:17 pm

New ride type from Dynamic:



A more advanced version of the Test Track ride system. I would love for this to come to the UK but can't see Merlin Splashing out on a large scale dark ride any time soon.
 
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:30 pm

Whilst this isn't the most on-topic of things, it's  certainly interesting:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46728115
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:34 am

Sozzy40 wrote:
Whilst this isn't the most on-topic of things, it's  certainly interesting:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46728115

Hideous! Now that's one evac I would not like to experience..
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Re: Industry General Discussion

Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:27 pm

Just a quick question for an essay I have to do: does anyone know how many accidents a year (not routine, so evacs don’t count) are the fault of the the ride itself, such as a computer failure, mechanical fault etc.
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:34 pm

Wagstaff04 wrote:
Just a quick question for an essay I have to do: does anyone know how many accidents a year (not routine, so evacs don’t count) are the fault of the the ride itself, such as a computer failure, mechanical fault etc.

Have no concrete numbers, but I would say the average per year will be somewhere near zero. Typically ride systems when operating to manufacture specification, cannot fail in such a way where an accident can occur. They're designed to fail-safe, for example with brakes that are always on unless the control system powers them off, or with triple redundancy on sensors where there are three sensors checking the same thing that will stop everything if they disagree.
 
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Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:20 pm

With the outbreak of the coronavirus what sort of impact does everyone think it will have on the industry?
 
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Re: Industry General Discussion

Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:55 am

Muppet738 wrote:
With the outbreak of the coronavirus what sort of impact does everyone think it will have on the industry?


Sadly as has been seen this past week, the entire industry has had to essentially close down. Quite why Merlin are trying to string it out with their UK operations I'm not sure. Thankfully for those working at established operators like Disney, they will mostly receive continued employment, at least for the short term.

It's quite possible we may lose some parks, especially those already struggling, unless government subsidies can be found. Those with additional ongoing costs, like wildlife, may struggle more, but I would hope appropriate insurances would have been taken out by those parks.
 
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Re: Industry General Discussion

Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:46 pm

I'm involved in the travel industry and things are grim here. Cutting back costs, asking staff to volunteer for unpaid holiday. We're a viable business with significant cash reserves but it's still scary.

Margins in the theme park industry, even for titans like Disney, are razor thin. A lot of theme parks will be hunkering down and hoping that normalacy will return before the summer peak. The Easter Holiday is certain to be a write off but at the moment, there's still a good chance that the coronoa virus will be in massive decline by June. Disney's share price has tanked 40% in a month and it's going to sink even more. They are at serious risk of a hostile takeover, with Tencent being a realistic prospect (I'd imagine the US government would fight that tooth and nail) . An Apple buyout is also another prospect, one that'll face less resistance.

A lot of these companies are viable businesses and bring in lots of tourism, as well as regional employment so they would get a lot of help from the government.
 
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Re: Industry General Discussion

Thu May 07, 2020 2:37 pm

As reported on TowersTimes social media; Picsolve, the company behind photography services at many theme parks across the world, has today entered administration placing over 600 jobs at risk.

The Company has come under pressure following the temporary closure of almost all the attractions it operates at. Matt Cowlishaw, restructuring partner at Deloitte who have been appointed administrators, said: “We are actively seeking a buyer for all or parts of the business to allow it to continue and eventually reopen as theme parks and leisure attractions come back online.”
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