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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:30 pm

a wooden SW nah, no wooden coaster is worthy of that status,but they should defo put a biggun in that valley of theirs :D
 
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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:36 pm

^ :shock:

Wooden coasters arn't worthy of Sw status?

Some wooden coasters are worthy of being the best ride in the world. Theres greats like Blouder Dash, El toro, and Fireball in china and loads more!

If a woodie was the next SW, then it wouldnt be a normal woody, it would have some gimmick in.
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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:53 pm

What possibly can a woodie bring to the SW table? Speed , that's about it. They don't go upside down, no inversions, zero g rolls etc, plus they cannot be put indoors like compact steelies.

Please folks let's embrace the 21st century and leave the woodies in the victorian era. :D Seriously though I for one like woodies, but the laws of pyshics still apply. I'm afraid you can only do so much with wood.

Steel still rules the roost for variety and options. AT still need a woodie though, over in the Valley,wot you lot think? :D
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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:08 pm

"NemmyNut" wrote:
What possibly can a woodie bring to the SW table? Speed , that's about it. They don't go upside down, no inversions, zero g rolls etc, plus they cannot be put indoors like compact steelies.

Please folks let's embrace the 21st century and leave the woodies in the victorian era. :D Seriously though I for one like woodies, but the laws of pyshics still apply. I'm afraid you can only do so much with wood.

Steel still rules the roost for variety and options. AT still need a woodie though, over in the Valley,wot you lot think? :D
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That's exactly why a wooden ride would make a good SW. Steel rides can do more but because of Altons planning difficulties the height and speed are limited anyway. You can create a very unique ride experience with a wooden roller coaster and the SWs are all about offering unique and enjoyable experiences. Besides Megafobia Britain doesn’t have any modern woodys so it would be a great addition if they ever built one.
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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:40 pm

I'm personally not keen on wooden coasters xP I think they look beautiful, but onride, they do nothing for me. I'm more interested in there being a new worlds first steel sort of one.

But, they will probably make one none-the-less, due to everyone asking for one.
 
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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:15 pm

I'd like a 'woodie water coaster'. Something like 'Journey to Atlantis' but wooden, so you get the fast paced corners and a nice drop but every now and then you go on a gentle journey through an indoor water section. It could be done and would be worthy of SW status.
 
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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:36 am

My six year old son asked me the other day, "If you want Alton Towers to build a wooden roller coaster, Dad, why don't you just ask them to, nicely. If you say 'please' they just might you know".

Has anyone asked them? :lol:
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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:01 am

if you look at steel they tie the car to the track but with wooden cars it rides on top and that is the best megaphobia leaves the track all the time in the back and it doesnt matter how intense the ride is because the front gets the acceleration and the bach gets the air time so wooden coasters allow for multiple rides with different feels i would avoid banked turns and tunnels and a launched version defeates the reason for having wood
 
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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:59 pm

Wooden rollercoasters have exactly the same wheel config as steel rollercoasters, so woodies cars are also "tied" to the track, its just not as obvious on woodies.

it would be very dangerous not to have up-stop wheels on a woodie as they tend to have lots of negative G's
 
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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:15 pm

"UnleashedLlama" wrote:
My six year old son asked me the other day, "If you want Alton Towers to build a wooden roller coaster, Dad, why don't you just ask them to, nicely. If you say 'please' they just might you know".

Has anyone asked them? :lol:

:lol: How sweet :lol:

We should ask for him, just collectively write an amazingly persuasive email demanding a JW woodie NOW! :lol:

Seriously, a big, brilliant woodie is just what the park needs, would be the icing on the cake.

Give it theme, give it landscape, give it speed, force and airtime and the park will be pretty much complete.
 
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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:25 pm

"Blaze" wrote:
the park will be pretty much complete.
Never! :P

But I see your point:

Inverted coaster? Check.
Flying Coaster? Check.
Vertical dive coaster? Check.
Launch coaster? Check.
Spinning coaster? Check.
Powered coaster? Check.
Thrilling family drop coaster? Check.
Enough inversions in the park? Probably.

The only things missing from that list are, 1, possibly a sitdown looping coaster (but I think this is unnecessary and wouldn't do much for the lineup) and 2, a woodie.

So therefore the woodie must be next on the agenda! :D
 
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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:40 am

"Dormiens-Dave" wrote:
Wooden rollercoasters have exactly the same wheel config as steel rollercoasters, so woodies cars are also "tied" to the track, its just not as obvious on woodies.

it would be very dangerous not to have up-stop wheels on a woodie as they tend to have lots of negative G's


Not entirely...

Wooden coasters tend to have a large gap between the running wheels and the up stops. A steel coaster will be tighter, or have a spring loaded mechanism keeping the wheels close to the track. You get a lot less movement on a steel coaster (unless it's a Vekoma) which gives it the smooth ride.

I think this is what he was getting at anyway, the fact you do quite often get that large amount of air time where you know on a woody that the running wheels aren't touching the track at all. With steel, there's (generally) always contact with both running and up stop.
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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:18 pm

you cant beat the way the car smashes back onto the track then you know its going fast speed in oakwood has a very good airtime hill but you can feel that the car is glued to the track megaphobia leaves the track and drop hard again
 
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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:32 pm

I very much disagree that a big woodie wouldn't be worth SW status. Quite the opposite. In my opinion if we had anything close to the original plans, with the near 200 ft drop(s), would quite possibly be the second best coaster at the park. (After nemesis of course) and I really hope they pull it together and we get SW7 within 4 or 5 years! :D I mean this may not happen but fingers crossed! :D :D
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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:49 pm

AT simply has to go wooden next. A comfortable yet thrilling ride, which appeals to all.
 
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Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:26 pm

"henry96" wrote:
I very much disagree that a big woodie wouldn't be worth SW status. Quite the opposite. In my opinion if we had anything close to the original plans, with the near 200 ft drop(s), would quite possibly be the second best coaster at the park. (After nemesis of course) and I really hope they pull it together and we get SW7 within 4 or 5 years! :D I mean this may not happen but fingers crossed! :D :D

I really doubt any wooden coaster will go through the valley. Thirteen is where the station would be, the MTDP shows there is no coaster planned for the valley and it would be unthemed. The ride will be somewhere else and i'm hoping 2014 and SW7.

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AT simply has to go wooden next. A comfortable yet thrilling ride, which appeals to all.

Comfortable? No thanks. If you want a smooth ride go on Air or Thirteen. A woodie should be rough-ish and violent. It should throw you about and feel wild. They can't be as smooth as steel so shouldn't try. Instead they should be the opposite. And personally, I think i'd prefer this woodie to be properly intense and old school thrill.
 
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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:45 pm

"Blaze""][quote=""henry96" wrote:
I very much disagree that a big woodie wouldn't be worth SW status. Quite the opposite. In my opinion if we had anything close to the original plans, with the near 200 ft drop(s), would quite possibly be the second best coaster at the park. (After nemesis of course) and I really hope they pull it together and we get SW7 within 4 or 5 years! :D I mean this may not happen but fingers crossed! :D :D

I really doubt any wooden coaster will go through the valley. Thirteen is where the station would be, the MTDP shows there is no coaster planned for the valley and it would be unthemed. The ride will be somewhere else and i'm hoping 2014 and SW7.

"JayTricky" wrote:
AT simply has to go wooden next. A comfortable yet thrilling ride, which appeals to all.

Comfortable? No thanks. If you want a smooth ride go on Air or Thirteen. A woodie should be rough-ish and violent. It should throw you about and feel wild. They can't be as smooth as steel so shouldn't try. Instead they should be the opposite. And personally, I think i'd prefer this woodie to be properly intense and old school thrill.[/quote]

I should have defined what I meant as comfortable - as in no pain etc, as i've come off some woodies with bruises!

I agree it should be wild. That's what I find thrilling on a woodie is the ability for a simple helix or turn to be completely insane, due to the wild ride.
 
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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:56 pm

Oh right, I get you. I don't mean to the point of bruises, but a woodie is not really a woodie if it doesn't have that good old fashioned aggression :twisted: don't mind some pain, something about the levels of Nash at the back with no belt and stupidly loose lap bars. Maybe go as far as PBBs Wild Mouse :twisted:
 
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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:57 pm

If any of you guys have No-Limits coaster, I have created and uploaded a track of the propsed cross valley woodie based on the plans. Of course this wont be totally accurate but its the best I could do with what there was available.

Feel free to download;

[url=http://nolimits-exchange.com/coaster/1188/alton-towers-cross-valley-woodie-proposed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://nolimits-exchange.com/coaster/11 ... e-proposed[/url]

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Re: Any future for the Wooden Coaster?

Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:14 am

"darrenhosker" wrote:
If any of you guys have No-Limits coaster, I have created and uploaded a track of the propsed cross valley woodie based on the plans. Of course this wont be totally accurate but its the best I could do with what there was available.

Feel free to download;

[url=http://nolimits-exchange.com/coaster/1188/alton-towers-cross-valley-woodie-proposed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://nolimits-exchange.com/coaster/11 ... e-proposed[/url]

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Hello Daz,
My name is Sam and I think I love you and want to marry you.

Can someone get him a gold status please?

I actually had tears in my eyes while watching that. It's like when I got to ride a Schwarkopf Shuttle Loop. I actually feel like I just experienced Alton's and the world's greatest lost coaster for the first time in my life. I've seen the plans before, but had never worked out any of the layout apart from the two drops to the valley. It felt like I was riding a brand new Alton coaster for the first time in my life.

Thankyou Sir.

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