My whole point has been Alton need to invest more in a ride because of the height restrictions and therefore need a bigger budget to try and compete with those who don't have such restrictions. I know they have tried to go the extra mile with th13teen and bring a world first, but I would much have preferred some massive expansive B&M than what theyve provided us with. Nemesis proves you can have a fantastic looping inverting coaster within all the restrictions applied on the park.
I know I'm not the only one crying out for inversions! Even a £15m budget would produce something special if they just built us a no-frills rollercoaster. No gimmicks just quality speed, loops, adrenaline. With the number of manufacturers and designs on the market they could easily find a coaster design to
provide this. I just don't see why it all has to be about the world first.
Rita was built on a considerably lower budget, granted the theming was terrible but it provided the thrills that most people cried out for and still has some of the longest queues in the park because of it. That didn't have a world first or a gimmick was just unadulterated fun and did the job it was meant to. I don't see why alton can't just be content with building high quality rides and have to go running back to john wardley because they can't survive without him. I'm sorry that it seems like I'm having a bitch but I really feel alton is lagging behind the times a bit now and they seriously need a return to form with another breathtaking ride, and looking at th13teen i think I'm still gonna be waiting a long time.
Firstly, I'm sure I have seen it said before that the novelty value of rides in Alton Towers incorporating holes in the ground to get around the height limit has gone about as far as it can. Any more will just be seen as either lack of imagination or just all the rides being too similar.
Why the obsession with inversions? With the apparent limitations on the number of major rides that are permitted, each ride has to earn its place by adding something new. It remains to be seen how good the outdoor part of Th13teen will be, but from what we know from testing it does seem that the design has potential for airtime and the feel of speed that a terrain coaster can produce. But if it doesn't provide that, then I would like to see a proper terrain coaster built - preferably a woodie. This would probably require more than one lift hill due to the height limits, but if properly designed this need not distract from the ride experience. Tyre drives seem to be gaining popularity and functionality - so I wonder if it would be possible to have a lift hill using a tyre drive at the beginning of the ride, and then some sort of accelerated boost (again using a tyre drive) midway through the course. It could even be possible to have a similar boosted lift to Universal's Incredible Hulk part way through the course - I would imagine that would be pretty thrilling.
I do agree that the "world's first" thing is overdone - and a hostage to fortune too. (No matter how good the world's first is, as soon as it is produced people will be working on beating it. Oblivion and AIR are often compared unfavourably with rides that have come 10 years after them)
And RITA as originally installed was all but a "car park" coaster. It was installed at the time that Tussauds seemed to have lost interest or direction as far as theme parks were concerned. I know that it is a popular ride, although queues do not tell the whole story. (Spinball takes longest to clear its queue line because of capacity issues - and RITA could have been designed with a double station similar to AIR).
I still feel that Alton Towers has a special atmosphere due to its long and varied history, and the way the grounds have evolved - if they start installing more rides on the same basis as RITA that are breathtaking as a ride but don't really belong in a Theme Park, I think they could lose that. That would be a sad day for me - and I have a feeling a bad decision for the park in the long term.