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Should alton get a Tower of Terror style Ride

Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:04 pm

Hi i like to say hi to everybody im new to TT and this is my first post so be gentle.
I was wondering what people's thought's are on having an elevator ride aimed at thrill seeker's.

Similar to Tower of Terror but with also a track with inversions and corkscrews like a shortened Nemesis setup and a drop tower as well.
Although in Alton's case they would probably have to dig part of drop underground due to height restrictions.

I really think something like that would be so cool as u cant see whats happening to you in a lift and
have no way to prepare yourself for what will happen to you on the ride.

It would be an ideal 13 replacement in future as i cant see that ride staying for long.

By the way this post has been modified since original replies to my post yesterday.

Any thoughts welcome :D
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Re: Should alton get a Tower of Terror style Ride

Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:14 pm

Hi Rollerjunkie, and welcome to TTF!

Unfortunately due to Alton's extremely prohibitive height restrictions, an attraction similar to Towers of Terror will never be possible. Also, I think your plans for a drop tower with a corkscrews are a bit ambitious! It's just too expensive to dig that far down, and they probably wouldn't get planning permission.

However, I can see a relatively small indoor drop tower like Phantasialand's Mystery Castle being built at Towers are some point. But why does the park need a drop tower when they already have the magnificent Oblivion?! :D

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Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:17 pm

I wonder if they could get around restrictions if they did create a Mystery Castle type drop tower built in the same style as the Towers buildings. I can't see it happening though, I think people are used to the drop tower type of ride now and so it won't pull in as many crowds as some new type of design.
 
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Re: Should alton get a Tower of Terror style Ride

Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:09 pm

I know it would be expensive to do but it would be unique in the UK... and i really like the idea of having a ride where you can't visually prepare yourself for what is about to happen at all!
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Re: Should alton get a Tower of Terror style Ride

Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:12 pm

So you want a ride with a drop sequence that also has a coaster section to be built at Alton?

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What's wrong with this one?
 
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Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:20 pm

I believe the phrase is "owned" :lol:
 
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Re: Should alton get a Tower of Terror style Ride

Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:42 pm

"Blaze" wrote:
What's wrong with this one?

Erm...
"Rollerjunkie" wrote:
Similar to Tower of Terror but with also a track with inversions and corkscews like a shortened Nemesis setup and a drop tower as well.

Unless I've missed something on my rides on Th13teen, it has no inversions.

I think a Tower of Terror style ride would be pointless, really. We already have Oblivion and Th13teen which both pull off the same kind of drop tower effect and provide the same sensation. Unless it has something new to it's design a drop tower is unlikely to be built on the park. As Sam has also mentioned, height restrictions make this highly unlikely to happen and in the case of a drop tower as you have described, a dug hole of such size would not pass the planning restrictions. It would cost too much when they could be spending such amounts of money else where. :)
 
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Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:08 pm

"Blaze" wrote:
So you want a ride with a drop sequence that also has a coaster section to be built at Alton?

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What's wrong with this one?


Well one that feels slightly more forceful than jumping of a 3 foot wall would help...

Sorry couldn;t resist :P

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Re: Should alton get a Tower of Terror style Ride

Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:54 am

I meant in the future as a replacement to 13 as novelty will soon wear off and i don't think its got that
repeat ride factor you need even for a family ride. Sonic Spinball now thats a brilliant family ride
Plus existing space and building could be recycled.
I am sure J.W vision for 13 originally was different to what we ended up with for reasons out of his control. I also wish Alton Towers would get a Woodie in the future :D
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Re: Should alton get a Tower of Terror style Ride

Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:15 am

Hi there and welcome,
I don't think that thirteen will be leaving soon as it is altons brand new ride and it supposedly cost £15 million. And in altons eyes thirteen will have been a success attracting more people than ever last year and for the GP who only visit once every couple of years; I believe that it will continue to have a large popularity.
 
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Re: Should alton get a Tower of Terror style Ride

Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:27 pm

don't forget that the tower of terror doesn't just go up and down (5th dimension scene?) that is of course the original in Florida, not sure what the others do...?

Sadly, as other folk have stated, it wouldn't get out alive after planning consultation. even if it was covered up, or dug in a hole, and that would have to seriously be one deep hole, unless you want it to be the size of the frog hopper? lol
 
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Re: Should alton get a Tower of Terror style Ride

Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:34 pm

I'm sure at some point, Thirteen's technology will be used in a much better way. When the mechanism becomes easier to integrate into a ride then the layouts will get more complicated and the freefall sections higher. It won't happen at Alton though, we had the prototype.
 
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Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:16 pm

"Rollerjunkie" wrote:
I meant in the future as a replacement to 13 as novelty will soon wear off and i don't think its got that repeat ride factor you need even for a family ride.

Why would they build a ride deliberately to replace it? And no it won't, the novelty of Oblivion has not worn off, so why will Thirteen's. As far as I'm concerned, Thirteen is the most reridable ride on park.

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Plus existing space and building could be recycled.

No it couldn't. Thirteen is how it is because that was all they were allowed to do, any bigger and it would not have been allowed. The building was specifically designed for Thirteen and it's drop. Nothing else could fit in without tearing it apart.

"Rollerjunkie" wrote:
I am sure J.W vision for 13 originally was different to what we ended up with for reasons out of his control.

Thirteen was going to be a family ride from day one. It was never, ever going to be a pulse-pounding white nuckle no holds bared thrill ride.

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Re: Should alton get a Tower of Terror style Ride

Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:49 pm

I quite like the idea of a Tower of Terror drop ride at AT.

It'd be rather cool, and I think the general public would love it.
 
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Re: Should alton get a Tower of Terror style Ride

Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:59 pm

I think if a drop tower were added to alton, it would have to be in fountain square or in the towers, as the towers would hide it from view & its far enough away from the village of alton to be seen.

The only problem is that it would draw peoples attention away from oblivion. Oblivion has already been bullied & nicknamed "Fanta Rainbow" (By me). Anything else & it will be the end of it!
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Re: Should alton get a Tower of Terror style Ride

Sun May 01, 2011 1:25 am

It is very possible. All you need is a few lift shafts drilled down into the ground along with an emergency staircase. The rest of the ride can be at ground level. Would be expensive though; takes some proper civil engineering. But they did that same engineering with Oblvion!
Could be a great experience attraction. The scale of the drop would be totally unknown until you're doing it.
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Tue May 03, 2011 5:16 pm

I think what they could do like the Phantasialand's Mystery Castle, is to try and blend it in with The Towers as much as possible. I always wanted a drop tower at Alton (unlikely due to height restrictions, have to go to Drayton to ride my favorite drop intamin drop tower) But even a family drop tower would do me (kind of like how Th13teen is to the public.
When i catch the bus to alton you can see the Towers and its gothic spirals, so why would this work blending it in , as though it has been there for many years. Even try and give it a storyline try and associate it with the Towers , even a leading storyline from Hex even with a room like hex where you are told a chilling story increasing the ride experience.
 
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Tue May 03, 2011 5:54 pm

They will never get permision to build inside the Towers again, certianly not something of that scale. Hex is ok because it's only the preshow that happens in the real Towers and the first half was already in use and the second was renovated after being derelict for many years.

Also, one of the reasons Hex was allowed is because it's educational, the story is based on a real local legend, which also makes the ride more 'real'. Another ride, with a made up story, built for the hell of it because they were too lazy to find something to go somewhere else, will never, quite rightly, get through.
 
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Wed May 04, 2011 9:39 am

"Blaze" wrote:
They will never get permision to build inside the Towers again, certianly not something of that scale. Hex is ok because it's only the preshow that happens in the real Towers and the first half was already in use and the second was renovated after being derelict for many years.

Also, one of the reasons Hex was allowed is because it's educational, the story is based on a real local legend, which also makes the ride more 'real'. Another ride, with a made up story, built for the hell of it because they were too lazy to find something to go somewhere else, will never, quite rightly, get through.


I understand but what if they added it near the Towers (not in them) so it could blend in as much as possible, they could still relate to the history of the towers
 
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Re: Should alton get a Tower of Terror style Ride

Wed May 04, 2011 12:46 pm

what about in the Dark Forest? the building there (one with the drop inside) is already reminiscent of the towers? why not a tall tower in the middle of a wood surrounded by ruins?

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