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Re: Alton Towers-A Resort?

Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:26 pm

Do you think Chessington,Lego land and when Thorpe park park build there hotel will add resort to there name. Even Drayton Manor from July could be classed as a resort.
 
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Re: Alton Towers-A Resort?

Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:00 pm

You see AT has 2 Parks, 2Hotels and so on... so because of the amount of attractions its worthy of being a resort.

Chessington is just 1 Park 1 Hotel, so surely thats just that?
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Re: Alton Towers-A Resort?

Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:07 pm

By definition a resort is a destination which contains multiple attractions by the same company, so they can cater to all off the customer’s needs. A single hotel can claim to be a resort if they can fulfil all their guests needs, for example a Ski Resort is a hotel with skiing facilities. The guest doesn’t need to leave the hotel for any of their primary needs.

In other words any Theme Park that can cater for all the guests needs can be classed as a resort. The only reason most parks aren’t counted as a resorts is the lack of accommodation.
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Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:57 pm

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Alton is a resort, but it is way to expensive to stay in the hotels, listen to this for 2 rooms, for 2 nights and 4 people and 2 days enrty into park it cost £1140. That is way to much it should be alot cheaper to attract more people.


I agree with this 100%, for these prices i can go to disneyland paris for a longer stay in an equivilant hotel like santa fa or cheyenne, as long as they keep there prices this high im not staying there, i have done but ive felt like ive experienced all it can offer me.
Unless there is going to be a massive expansion and i mean more then the 10 year plan can throw at me then im probably not going there again, the hotels are nice but when ive got a grand in hand and the choice for disney and alton its going to be disney hands down and im sure a lot of people in this country are going to do that, i know they are very diferent parks and alton has more thrill rides but i do think that people are going to choose disney
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Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:04 pm

Unless you are prepared to cram people in, sadly Alton hotels are pricing out any groups other than 4s and 6s

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Re: Alton Towers-A Resort?

Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:23 am

"AstroDan" wrote:
Unless you are prepared to cram people in, sadly Alton hotels are pricing out any groups other than 4s and 6s

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I've done a few trips with groups of 12, priced at £80 each for weekend away which includes 2 days on the themepark. 1 particular trip included passes for Cariba Creek, and another included passes for Boiler House and Fo1KS.

The trips i've organised actually came in just £80, at around £76-£78, but hey one has to make a profit for all the hard work! :P

Still £80 each for a weekend away with all those activities is bloody good in my opinion.
 
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Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:19 pm

Pete is right... Generally you can get a good deal at the hotels and people seem happy to pay so the prices stay high... They really need a third hotel with adjoining resort facilities to increase capacity and have more to do.

Its unlikely but with more pay to play activities on resort they may be able to bring room prices down as they can attract more guests and form profit on the attractions. Especially if capacity is increased.

If suspicions are correct i reckon post SW7 the park boundry will move towards splash with a small hotels entrance (much like EP) And a third hotel with p2p attractions will be built
 
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Re: Alton Towers-A Resort?

Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:37 pm

I hope that external activities that are created for the resort or competition do help bring down prices for the hotel and they offer an alternitave accomodation that is cheeper, but curently the hotels arent that hard to fill since there arnt that many rooms compared for how many people you can get into the park (and i swear most of the numbered roms going around are just cleaning cupboards)
But i do feel that the hotels are there for the social elite or people who are going to share with groups of 4 - 6 like astro dan said but as long as they make there money on what they have then they will only get more affordable when they market to lower income groups or the resort reaches saturation point
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Re: Alton Towers-A Resort?

Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:09 pm

In my opinion, Alton Towers is the ONLY Theme Park in the UK worthy of the 'Resort' title...

Adding resort onto the ends of say, CWOA is just plain stupid. I honestly don't class it as a resort. It's a Theme Park with a hotel next to it.

Same as when Thorpe will add their hotel, I bet any money it will from then on be called 'Thorpe Park Resort'... They're just named under false pretenses, to try and make the park sound alot better.
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Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:20 pm

CWOA is moving towards becoming a 'resort' (by the standards of Alton) but is not worthy of it yet.
 
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Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:03 pm

Merlin just call them all resorts now because they want people to spend two days on the parks, even though, in the UK at least, only Alton could just about keep you going for two days straight, more with the waterpark, golf and spa.

Merlin have also positioned Heide Park as a resort - but aside from accommodation, and obviously the theme park, there appears no other secondary attractions.

Alton is by far the most resort attraction Merlin operate. Isn't the Gardaland Waterpark many, many miles away from Gardaland itself? I have also read many reports, on another note, that the hotel at Gardaland is a huge hole!

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Re: Alton Towers-A Resort?

Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:12 pm

Notice that all other non-merlin parks always try to copy Alton? I remember 10 or so years ago all the "amusement" parks started calling themeselves "themeparks" and I was like "ha yeah right..."

Now they've all started calling themselves "Resorts" since Merlin rebranded towers. When I see the adverts for Blackpool and ESPECIALLY Flamingo Land, I can't help but shake my head at them.

Alton is the only real Themepark Resort in the UK.
 
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Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:36 pm

Actually I believe Flamingoland is in one of the best positioned parks to call itself a resort:

They have a huge holiday village with Camping, Caravans and Log Cabins avaliable. A small on site golf course, fishing lake, fitness and leisure centre including a gym, spa pool and sauna. Daily evening entertainment in the onsite bar. Dont get me wrong its not posh but in my time on the 'talk flamingo' team I met a number of people who spent weeks there, upto a month in extreme cases. With the average stay being around a week Id say they are in a good position to call themselves a resort.
 
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Re: Alton Towers-A Resort?

Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:26 pm

"evil cod" wrote:
Actually I believe Flamingoland is in one of the best positioned parks to call itself a resort:

They have a huge holiday village with Camping, Caravans and Log Cabins avaliable. A small on site golf course, fishing lake, fitness and leisure centre including a gym, spa pool and sauna. Daily evening entertainment in the onsite bar. Dont get me wrong its not posh but in my time on the 'talk flamingo' team I met a number of people who spent weeks there, upto a month in extreme cases. With the average stay being around a week Id say they are in a good position to call themselves a resort.


Pffft! If someone can spend a week at Flamingo land then they could spend a month at Towers. Longest I've stayed at Towers was 5 days, it was just enough to literally do everything and have the odd hour here and there to relax.

But yeah ok, we could maybe let Flamingo get away with their "resort" label.
 
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Re: Alton Towers-A Resort?

Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:55 am

I think if you go by the dictionary definition of resort, Alton Towers fits in.

However, in my own personal view it's less a resort now than it was 5 years ago since after park closing time there's just bars and restaurants.
 
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Re: Alton Towers-A Resort?

Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:26 pm

Alton is the only UK park worthy of having the "Resort" title. This is how I would spend a few days on the resort.

Day 1: Arrive, have lunch, afternoon of rides.
Day 2: Day at theme park going on rides mainly.
Day 3: Day of relaxation, spa treatments and just relaxing around the resort.
Day 4: Explore the Towers and the gardens, grab a sandwich and have a picnic in the gardens.
Day 5: Day at theme park.
Day 6: Waterpark followed by golf.
Day 7: Another waterpark visit, followed by lunch and then journey home.

While in reality I'd never afford 7 days if I could then that's how I would set out a week at the resort. Even on my three day trips I get the waterpark, golf and theme park done without having to worry about rushing around as I tend to do on one day trips.

The only thing that Alton lack is much to do in the evening. They really need some form of a entertainments complex, bowling, cinema, casino possibly, a variety of shows, different restaurants. As currently it's just theme park close then the waterpark closes quite early and you have nothing to do for hours until the singers come out. I do enjoy having a drink in the bar after a day of rides but if they had other things on offer I think it widens the choices for hotel guests rather than having only one or two choices.
 
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Re: Alton Towers-A Resort?

Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:33 pm

I feel I have to agree, after the park closes and the water park closes, there is not masses to do. When I stayed in the hotel the weather was rubbish, so there was no option of chilling in the gardens of the ATH. It was a case of sitting in the bar while waiting for our table in the resturant.

Some kind of themed shopping, resturant, cinmea etc development would be a great investment. As both park guests and hotel guests could take advantage of the facilities.

This could extend the experience for the day guest massively as well as give the hotels more value for there money.
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