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SW6 Theme Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 12:20 am

Welcome to the SW6 theme discussion topic. As the name suggests, this topic is solely for discussion surrounding the theming of Alton's new addition for 2010.

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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 9:21 pm

Just putting it out there - the theme for this ride will more than likely be the biggest part of it. This idea has been thrown about before and it seems very plausable concidering the attention to the themeing on plans & quality of the 'Dark Forest' concepts.

What do we all think then?

Will we see the Dark Forest theme come through? Will there be any more themeing bar the station? What themeing will be hidden away in the 'Crypt'?

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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Sun May 03, 2009 9:32 pm

The theme of the ride is undoubtedly going to be very important, and it could make or brake the whole project. From the plans, the station building looks very impressive, and hopefully it will be just as impressive on the inside. I really hope that there is some kind of queueline theming, I'm not expecting anything amazing like Manta's queueline, but some bits of theming in it can't be that hard to do.

The part of the ride where I feel the theme will play the most important part is the dark section at the end of the ride. The train is going to enter the station building at the top of the building and this is where the special element to the ride is going to be. But if the element is going to be something like the track dropping, it can't just happen for no reason. Something has got to happen in the building, hopefully there will be some audio including a voice of some sorts, and some effects to go with it. It looks like the theme to the ride is going to be a crypt, so it could be that you've just come back from the woods and have found this crypt, and something that is buried in this crypt could be disturbed, and the reaction of this something causes the track to drop. I hope that makes sense!
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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Tue May 05, 2009 8:22 am

I personally think you will see the night watchman and he will turn to you and then he will say something and 'the ground will open'(the element) and the train will be sucked backwards into the tunnel!
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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Tue May 05, 2009 11:37 am

I think there will be a lot of focus on sounds and lighting to help the theme. I would hope that there woulod be some kind of video in the dark section of the ride.
I do think that the woods around the ride will play a massive role in theme of the ride. I could be possible to combine that Dark Forest and Crypt idea for this ride.

It would be class if the queue and ride area look like the ground is taking over, with vines creaping over walls, building and ride structure etc.
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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Wed May 13, 2009 4:53 pm

About this idea of the Nightwatchmen theme? Do we have any think in the plans that would suggest this theme is the one the ride will be featuring?

Something else I'm curious of is whether Rita will be Re-Themed or possibly even removed? I heard rumors of Rita being a tempory attraction, but I cannot be sure on that, so don't quote me. :)

The plans seem to look pretty interesting to me. I'm still wanting to see more plans to do with the theming element of things. Surely more plans will have to be submitted soon enough... I'm looking forward to seeing what the park has come up with. Hopefully it'll bring something completly new to the table. A theming concept thats not been seen before. I look forward to seeing what's going to be happening with this in terms of theming.
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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Sat May 16, 2009 7:40 pm

Rita won't go anywhere I don't think, they've included it on all of the plans for SW6 so it seems unlikely it'll be removed, besides it's only been there a few years and there's nothing wrong with it so I don't see it actually going anywhere.

A re-theme is in need though, and I'd like to see Rita at least painted to fit in with SW6, if it was kept the way it was it would look horrible :)
 
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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Sat May 16, 2009 8:55 pm

I've come up with this theory:
Rita was built in 2005 to spread the cost of the new area coming in 2010; they didn't want to theme it when they got it so that it didn't give away what they were planning. They also gave it a station made out of scaffolding such not to spend too much on a temporary theme. They also bought the cheapest train outlook (racing car) and themed it accordingly, as well as a basic name.
Come 2010 Rita should get a repaint, a new permanent station, better trains and a rename. This is done and to the GP, who don't know loads about roller coasters, will think it is a new ride.
Hey presto it spreads out the big costs and doesn't give anything away.
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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Sat May 16, 2009 9:16 pm

Hex has a fairly unique pallette of themeing, not only in Alton Towers, but in various other themeparks out there as well. I don't mean that other parks don't have rides based around spooky castles, legends and spinning rooms, I mean the subtlety and the creeping air of something sinister and magical you can't quite put your finger on. Up until it's finale, Hex is more suggestive than it is jaw dropping effects all over the place. The ride has great emotional presence that I think/hope SW6 will/should also have.

I think the fact that it will be themed in a similar way with its feeling of ruin, statues and air of mystery it's safe to say that it will draw on the concepts introduced by Hex. That's not to say it will be connected with the legend or anything, more about how the ride is presented. Though there is perhaps too great a distance between Hex and SW6 to make a proper area of it, the Towers in themselves have such an ominous presence that the connection will still remain.

Hex surmises a lot of what magic fan boys love about Alton Towers. The fact that another ride is coming that looks as if its set to further this feel will improve the status of these magical rides and give Alton a fantastic sense of identity in 2010, if all marketing is deployed correctly.

Its theme does hold fantastic potential as it looks to be the rollercoaster with the most important theme in the whole park, even over Nemesis.
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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Wed May 20, 2009 12:39 pm

Also, the fact that the theme that surrounds this ride cleverly implements the trees that are already there, it gives an even greater potential as to just how much of an impact the theme will make.

Much like how Nemesis compliments its theme with its surroundings, by being in the pit, SW6 will also have this with the forest that surrounds it. This will not only save money on theme as the trees are already there, but it will also help with just how strong the overall theme is.

The same can be said about Hex, in the fact that its surroundings heavily support its theme, by being in the Towers. These two rides are currently the best themed in the park in my opinion, and to see that this ride follows the same concepts of theming as Hex and Nemesis do (in that they all use their natural surroundings to help their theme) is a big boost on how confident I am this ride will be a major success, and like Jon said, it will give the park a sense of identity in 2010
 
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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Thu May 21, 2009 9:01 pm

The illusion that Hex gave would be amazing in SW6. If they could incorporate that with the nemesis pit as said above would make this ride amazing.
 
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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Mon May 25, 2009 11:16 am

I amagine a spooky, dark theme. like being a sister to hex
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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Mon May 25, 2009 12:52 pm

I can realistically see the Corkscrews off Corkscrew being somewhere near the ride with them being partly covered in scafolding showing that they were dismantiling the ride and they could also put a memorial plaque in from of the Corkscrews. Then it could be something similar to Hex's story that during the recent dismantaling of a ride a unknown crypt was found and that the builders started mysteriously disappearing and that the only way to find out the truth is to ride into the woods...

They could also use sounds like the dismataling of Corkscrew is still taking place, abit like how in Hex you can hear chisels and works being carried out on the restoration of the Towers.
 
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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Tue May 26, 2009 12:40 pm

Has anyone considered that they might affiliate this ride with a film or tv show as a last minute suprise...? Thorpe Park just did it with Saw, and they are also owned by Merlin. The first that springs to mind is Harry Potter, (from the look of the theme so far) but that's already taken by Universal's Islands Of Adventure. But who knows..? Dan Brown books such as Angels & Demons / Da Vinci Code, or Doctor who maybe.

I just hope they don't do another ride based around the hex legend (cos the colour scheme, station design and dark forest concepts suggest that) because although I think it's brilliant, one is enough I think.

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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Tue May 26, 2009 4:32 pm

I really can not see this ride being linked to anything other than Alton Towers. A TV or film link would merely swallow up budgets.

Alton won't do this again after Charlie - they have enough history and nostalgia to play on.
 
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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Wed May 27, 2009 8:58 am

"kingda dude" wrote:
I've come up with this theory:
Rita was built in 2005 to spread the cost of the new area coming in 2010; they didn't want to theme it when they got it so that it didn't give away what they were planning. They also gave it a station made out of scaffolding such not to spend too much on a temporary theme. They also bought the cheapest train outlook (racing car) and themed it accordingly, as well as a basic name.
Come 2010 Rita should get a repaint, a new permanent station, better trains and a rename. This is done and to the GP, who don't know loads about roller coasters, will think it is a new ride.
Hey presto it spreads out the big costs and doesn't give anything away.


Rita's station is by no means a temporary one. It is the standard for that type of rollercoaster, you only need to look at Stealth at Thorpe to prove this because the station is literally identical!
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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Wed May 27, 2009 9:29 am

"Jlton" wrote:
I can realistically see the Corkscrews off Corkscrew being somewhere near the ride with them being partly covered in scafolding showing that they were dismantiling the ride...

Oh I would love that... that's an awesome idea...
 
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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Thu May 28, 2009 12:36 pm

I think that it's not going to be a very 'Family' ride because the theme actually looks a little creepy... :twisted: If it's going to have hounds and everything in it going through creepy-looking woods and steep and very fast dips it's definetaly going to be an adrenaline-junkie-seaker ride (my type of ride WOOO!) :mrgreen:
 
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Re: SW6 Theme Discussion

Thu May 28, 2009 6:16 pm

"Islander"&quot;][quote=&quot;"Jlton" wrote:
I can realistically see the Corkscrews off Corkscrew being somewhere near the ride with them being partly covered in scafolding showing that they were dismantiling the ride...

Oh I would love that... that's an awesome idea...[/quote]

Thanks, I hope they do it. It sort of all fits in as Alton said last year that the Corkscrews would be kept and used else where on park and we've seen no sign of them this year so I'm thinking that would make sense if it gets incorporated into the new ride.
 
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