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DiogoJ42

Acute dentist-phobic need advice!

Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:13 pm

Hey guys.

What follows may seem rather pathetic, but please don't mock. [-o<

My absolute, number one terror is dentists. I'd rather spend a week on a drop tower covered in spiders than go near them!
The last time I went must have been nearly 20 years ago, when my mum took me there without telling me where we were going. I freaked out, kicked the dentist in the shin and ran. :lol: Never been back since.

I'm not an idiot. I've always said that although my teeth ain't pretty, if I got a problem I would get it sorted. Well, tuesday night, I got that problem.
I was eating a chocolate bar when I felt a twinge. A look in the mirror confirmed that a chunk of my rear molar had come away, and what was underneath didn't look good. But it doesn't hurt.

Anyway, I called Kelpie's dentist earlier, and they had a slot in 20mins. Thinking "get it over and done with", I went.

I was sh!tting myself. To quote Hunter S Thompson, "There was no way of explaining the terror I was experiencing". Anyway, check up and X-rays followed. This was un-nerving, but to be fair, this isn't the bit that freaks me out. :P

Long story short, that tooth may be fixable, but there is a chance it will have to come out (presumably if it falls to pieces when they start work on it?)

But the 'treatment plan' they gave me has 14 fillings on it (yikes!) Most of which are on teeth that I can't see a problem with. In fact, the broken tooth is the very last thing on the list! :?

He's a private dentist (there aren't any NHS ones round here), and I can't help but feel he is trying to fleece me (natural distrust of anyone who wants to spent their lives torturing people).

He also didn't seem too concerned about my fear. I mean, he was nice enough, but I couldn't help but sense contempt from him. They don't do general anaesthetic (few places do), and tried to talk me out of dosing up on valium before they do anything. But I seriously don't want to be conscious while they do whatever they gotta do!

I know it's pathetic, but just typing this is making me shake with fear. [watches his TTF street-cred disappear over the horizon].

If I could get knocked out and wake up with a healthy set of gnashers, fine. I wouldn't have a problem with that. But the very thought of being awake while they go to work on me makes me want to die. Literally! Death seems like a quick and easy option by comparison! It just seems so barbaric! Like medi-evil torture. In fact, the Cardassians in Star Trek did use dental torture!
The fear and panic in my head makes the dentist in Little Shop Of Horrors look like Santa Claus!

Seriously guys, I'm freaking out. On the verge of a panic attack just writing this. Can anyone suggest what I should do? I'm not in any pain at the moment, but I know if nothing gets done this tooth could get really bad. Is it even possible to get specialist "dentists for pussies"? Get a full general anaesthetic and know nothing about the horrors?

Help. 8-[
 
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Re: Acute dentist-phobic need advice!

Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:51 pm

I think you should probably get the treatment done, at least then you might not have to go to the dentist again for a while.

Most dentist's will numb your mouth before they do treatment like that so its not a problem that you won't be knocked out, you wouldn't feel that much pain.
I suppose you could close your eyes and have some headphones in playing loud music?
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Re: Acute dentist-phobic need advice!

Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:57 pm

Oh I know that I'd be 'numbed', but that's not the point. I can't bare the thought of being awake while it's done. I'll freak out like a baby. [/shame]
 
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Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:57 pm

I would suggest getting the broken tooth sorted at the very least. I had a broken tooth a few years back, and left it for to long. The complications of leaving a broken tooth far outway getting it sorted quickly. It may not hurt now, but if it gets infected, then trust me, that is very painful. :shock: .
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Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:01 pm

I'm happy to get the broken one fixed... that's the reason I went. Just as long as I'm unconscious I'll be fine with it. :P It concerns me that the dentist seemed more interested in other teeth though.

Is it even possible to get a full general for dentistry?
 
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Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:16 pm

I had a choice of having local or full anesthetic for having the tooth removed, though they had to remove the lot including the root. I chose local, though while sat there having it done I wish I'd gone for the other option. :P It wasn't painful, just rather uncomfortable.

I managed to find an NHS dentist who did emergency work. I'm not sure if a broken tooth is classed as such, though in my case an abcess had developed so it was an emergency. There was no suggestion of getting anything else done then, just concentrating on that particular area. In the first instance he cleaned the area out, and started a course of antibiotics, and a couple of weeks later had the surgery to remove the tooth.
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Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:09 pm

I've never had great teeth (though I take better care of them now) and when I was younger I had to have numerous fillings as they were pretty bad! Had all that crap done, fillings, holes being made and closed as well the numbing. The numbing does help, and to be honest I fear the injection from that more than the dentistry work itself!

I used to absolutely hate the dentist and be scared of it, but honestly, it's not that bad. You will probably feel some discomfort but I don't think there will be any pain. Just try not to think about it when they're doing it and ride it out :) You'll be glad you had it all done afterwards.
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Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:21 pm

I had two uneeded teeth removed a few years ago...

I can say that it was not painful at all because of the anaesthetic. However, feeling the tugs and pulls at my teeth was quite unnerving. The worst part was afterwards, when my gaps would not stop bleeding and the numbness on my mouth was almost unbearable. Whilst I was extremely uncomfortable, it did not last long and the result is worth it.

I think if a tooth is removed (it might not be necessary), it probably won't be as bad as you expect. However, you will just have to cope with very uncomfortable emotions if you are too scared. I am not scared of dentists, but after that I could understand why. It does not last much more than a day more or less, though. Good luck! :D
 
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Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:48 pm

I've been reading up on the subject, (this in itself is torture for me) and it would seem I am right to be suspicious of the massive long list of things that 'need doing', rather than fixing the immediate problem. I think I need to find a specialist who deals with wimps like myself. 8-[ One who smiles when he says hello, not when he sees how much he can charge me.
 
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Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:02 pm

Maybe contact someone like Bupa (you could easily call them or email them) and see what they could offer to you. You don't have to be a member to get dental treatment from them.

Their brochure does state:

We realise that some people are anxious about a visit to the dentist, so we do our best to make you feel comfortable, in a relaxed informal atmosphere. We start by getting to know you and helping you overcome any worries you may have about dental care. From the smallest filling to solving complex dental problems, we will help you overcome any worries you may have and treat your individual needs.
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Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:15 pm

Diogo i have the exact same problem, My parents try to bribe me but i get so nervous when im there, i just physically cant! I desperately need braces as my teeth are in a bad way but the rule im going on at the moment is when they hurt i will go :P

I wish i could find a nice dentist that would kind of respect my huge fear, last time i went he tried to put the mirror thing in my mouth and i was having none of it and just jumped out of the chair and kept walking down the street. I just hate it so much and i have no idea what it is.

Also a few months ago i lost a tooth seeing Kids In Glass Houses live and im worried about that because i dont want to look like a gummy but then i cant go anywhere near that place!

I feel your pain Diogo!
 
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Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:22 pm

I had exactly the same problem. The way my dentist sorted it out was by doing one thing at a time.

First he sorted the cause of some pain by putting a crown on a tooth. then we arranged another date to go back to have some other fillings done. He also said he didn't mind if I cancelled last minute so that I went in my own time etc. I did need to pay upfront though.

It may be worth asking for the anesthetic to NOT contain adrenalin. This caused me to go all sweaty and have a racing heart as I was already on edge as it was.

After the first 3 trips I began to lose my fear and the complete set of treatment was done with only 1 cancellation due to my panic.

He was a good dentist, apart from being a Man City fan :D
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Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:32 pm

I also have a bit of a fear of most things medical, and like you would have to be out to have anything done on me, I just couldn't be concious. Fortunately, all I've ever needed to have done is two small fillings, and I didn't have any anesthetic. It wasn't as bad as I was expecting (that's not to say it was nice!) which put my mind at rest a bit about it, so the best way to go about it is to just try and remain calm, tell yourself it is ok, and don't think about the procedure, as that, if your like me, makes you feel queasy and terrified. Finding a nice dentist (there's an oxymoron for you) is a big thing, someon ewho actually cares about you and understands your problem, rather than care about your wallet and understands how to get as much money as possible. You arn't the only one with this fear, so don't feel alone, but I'm afraid I can't think of any other advice I can give you, having never had to go through any big treatments, so I guess you'll have to grin and bear it (and if you get rid of the spiders, I'll gladdy take your place on that drop tower for you :lol: )
 
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Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:39 am

Hello, I know exactly how you feel! I damaged some of my teeth because I would clench my jaw when I had SPD in pregnancy (pelvic joints loosen up too much, really painful hips etc, I was walking by willpower alone,lol) plus a couple of badly done fillings, I ended up needing some extractions, fillings and a root canal.

Well, no way in hell would I have sat still for all that lot so I was referred to a brilliant dentist who specialises in nervous patients and also did sedation. Took 3 sedation appointments (I think, it's all a bit blurry :mrgreen: ) and they are fine now, just had a check up and all looking good. And i'm much less scared of the dentist now, still feel a little claustrophobic but i'm not jittery beforehand at all.

Are you able to travel a bit? There seem to be loads of NHS dentists in some counties and none elsewhere, Both of mine are private and it cost a lot of money (thank god for credit cards) for all the work but it was worth it as I was in near constant pain before hand. Happy to recommend the place to you if you want, it's in Hitchin.

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Forgot to say the sedation may have well been a general as I zonked out, it was fab, and when I did come to a little bit they would just top it up, part of the sedation is that it has a bit of an amnesiac quality which is perfect and also I was not phased at all by the stuff going on when I was a bit more lucid. When all the treatment was done he explained that they would bring me round a little earlier each time so I was aware of the treatment but relaxed, to help the fear and it has worked quite well.
 
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Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:07 pm

I share your fear, last two times I have been I nearly passed out. I get very dizzy and weak and nearly faint. I cannot stand the dentist and I will not go back unless I have a major issue. They wont knock you out anymore at a Dentist, they stopped doing Hypnoval many years ago, you can only be knocked out at hospital now.
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Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:10 pm

My treatment was only last year but you do need a specialist sedation clinic I think.
 
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Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:20 pm

Having lived with a dentist for two years here is the deal.

Its likely that most of the filling mentioned where probably needed as you havn;t visited a dentist for 20 odd years, 99.9% of dentists are scared of doing unneeded treatment as you can just ask for your x-rays which would prove in court that you didn't need them and they lose there registration.

For deep anxiety contact NHS direct and see if you can be seen as a sedation case at a hospital, most hospitals do provide this service, however all of the restoration will be the basic you can get (as in grey fillings and simple crowns). Alternatively seek out a private sedationist but be prepared to pay an arm and a leg for the treatment.

The fear of dentists is not unusual but its manageable and if your dentist doesn't treat your anxiety seriously take your money elsewhere (theres lots of good dentists in London believe me)
 
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:32 pm

Thanks Dave.
Given the state of my mouth, I suspect half my teeth would end up solid grey with "bog standard" NHS fillings.
Much as it terrifies me, I figure if I'm going to be knocked out, I may as well get as much done as possible, and done as well as possible. I seriously doubt an NHS dentist would touch my teeth with a barge pole anyway!
As far as price goes, my fear is so huge that I couldn't care less how much it costs, even if it means I'm broke for years to come. I'd rather that than the alternative! :P
 
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Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:52 pm

I've got very used to Dentists over my life so far, the amount of fillings I've had is unbelievable lol.
My biggest fear as with Danza is the numbing process with the needle. :shock: but after that it all seems very straight forward.
I had my Wisdom teeth out a few years back and that really did worry me, my brain processes broken stuff fine but taking out something that was working and probably well bedded in scared me a lot, it was that bad in the end, I felt a bit of pulling but the relief far out weight the small amount of pain at the time.
If you have no NHS I would seriously consider a health plan.
My son has just had a special resin coating on his back teeth to protect them, how I wish that was available when I was a kid!

I'd get it done though, as it will get painful, especially if it gets infected. :)
 
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Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:41 pm

"Crofty" wrote:
If you have no NHS I would seriously consider a health plan.

I asked about this when I went to the dentist the other week, and was told no insurance company would touch my teeth with a barge pole. Apparently if I had taken out an insurance plan before I went it wouldn't be a problem, but I was told if I tried that now it would be fraud. :roll: But like I said, I think that guy was trying to fleece me.

I'm still trying to find somewhere I can get this done under a general. :| I am now convinced this tooth has to come out. 8-[

My fear is so ridiculously overblown, that now every time I remember that visit (which brings me out in a cold sweat), I'm convinced the dentist had a German accent! He did look like a Gestapo torturer, to be fair.

I'm going to have to stop now before I freak out at work... my hands are shaking as I type.
(Christ, I'm pathetic)

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