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Fuji-Q Highland

Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:59 am

Fuji-Q Highland - Moonsault Scramble.

I mentioned the coaster in the AT future topic because of the G comparison. I thought I'd make a topic for it, as it's so darn special :p

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pushing G force any past 6.3 is pushing it a bit

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The ride was closed and dismantled to make way for Steel Dragon 2000, though the most common story arising from Moonsault was riders exiting feeling ill, or in some cases, unconcious!
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Yep, it was SBNO for numerous years as they couldn't decide what to do with the coaster that providing thrills and spills, but also the opportunity to pass out!

Anyone have any other info on it?
 
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:15 pm

Look at that gorgeous lil pretzel loop! Gotta be the most impressive-looking inversion(s). Definitely an extra-special coaster...sometimes for the more..errr..intense of reasons - typical of Vekoma! Although I've heard going through the loop is quite smooth, even at 70-odd mph!

Definitely prefer Steel Dragon 2000 in that setting though. The passing out problem with Moosault is a bit of a problem with that number of Gs! :lol:

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Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:24 pm

That would of been a great one to have a ride of. Looks pretty intense......espically comming out of the long hills straight into the loops!!
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:44 pm

It was removed to make room for Dodonpa. Dodonpa was once the fastest full-circuit coaster (the fastest semi-circuit being Superman:GE at Magic Mountain), which looks the better ride to me.

I think the pretzel knot on the moonsault was a proto-type for vekoma, but as it caused some passengers to pass out, it was scrapped from other developments!

Looked a good ride anyway!
 
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Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:05 am

Didn't B&M install a pretzel knot on one of the Superman rides? Modified of course :tongue:

I read somewhere it was removed for Steel Dragon, granted it wasn't a particularly reliable site :|

I remember admiring Dodonpa for it's launch... And not a lot else! There's nothing else after the vertical is there except some bunny hops on the return?
 
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Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:58 pm

Steel Dragon 2000 was at Nagashima Spa Land
where as
Moonsault Scramble was as you rightly said at Fuji-Q Highland
where Dodonpa now is

so steel dragon 2000 couldnt of been the replacement
 
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Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:49 pm

"Sarah-TTF" wrote:
Didn't B&M install a pretzel knot on one of the Superman rides? Modified of course :tongue:


No you got it wrong that's a Pretzel Turn.

But i'm loathing over the support work not the track!
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evil cod

Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:30 pm

damn, yeah i didnt notice the supports those are amazing
 
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Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:37 am

Haha shows how much I take an interest in foreign activities! Ah well.

No you got it wrong that's a Pretzel Turn.

I said modified, you damn moose!! And you're wrong, RCDB says Pretzel Loop, HA! :tongue:
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I have a picture of the supports of MS that shows them clearly:
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Lovley stuff, some good engineering!
 
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Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:48 am

Looks pretty spectacular. If they just widened the dimensions on the pretzel loop/knot/turn/donkey it would remove some of the intensity. Id love to ride that, or similar
 
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Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:07 pm

lol, *says donkey and laughts to self* 8-[

that dose look a damn good experience! :D :D
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Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:10 pm

Yeah, apparantly the pretzels on the B&M flyers are pretty intense and offer an amazing experience (as can be expected in a flying position!). I think B&M made them wider so the G's were lowered? Ack, i'm no expert anyway! :lol:
 
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Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:43 pm

Hmm it is a nice coaster. And its more astounding when viewing it onride than it is off! :shock: :shock: I wish they had kept it!!! I have an onride video of it on DVD!! Its amazing

^^ And the G's arent as intense on a flyer through a pretzel loop, as it isnt taken at 70mph like it was on Moonsault!
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Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:19 pm

That is such a beautiful coaster. I love pretzel loop inversions and that just looks amazing.
 
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Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:26 pm

damn that looks nice, so when it was replaced was it just melted down? or did it move to another park? Id imagine a few parks would like to add that beast.
 
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Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:31 pm

I'd expect the forces on Moonsault Scramble were higher than on the B&M flyers due to the way you enter and exit the inversions.

On Moonsault Scramble's Pretzel Knot you are swept off to the left/right depending on which direction you are going, whereas on Superman, you enter and exit on a straight line.

The twisted entrance and exit would clearly be more forceful, because your body is being pulled out of the line in which it wants to travel by the track.

For example, if you look at this picture you can see that as you travel down the section of track on the right hand side, your body would like to continue in a straight line, instead it is whisked off to the left.

This dosen't happen on Superman, hence on Superman there is less force around the Pretzel Loop.

Of course, the speed that the inversions are taken at would also have an effect, because you would be pulled over to the side quicker. The riding position could also be significant to the amount of force.

This differance in entrance/exit could also explain the different names, Pretzel Knot for Moonsault Scramble and Pretzel Loop for Superman.
 
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Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:11 am

The ride pulled posative 6.2 G during the pretzel loop, that, along with the Tower of Terror at Gold Reef Park (SBNO) were the most intense coaster's around, Moonsault Scrabble was removed and melted down in 2000.

Keep in mind some of the travelling Schwarzkopf coaster's can match that kind of power, I'm not sure about them these day's - but they used to pull around 7 G on Olympia Looping Bahn (now Zonga I think) when they ran it with seven car's at OktoberFest!
 
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Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:28 pm

I'm not sure about them these day's - but they used to pull around 7 G on Olympia Looping Bahn (now Zonga I think) when they ran it with seven car's at OktoberFest

I doubt it was quite that much as this would mean very bad blackouts although it would still be pretty intense. Plus as far as I'm aware Olympia Looping is still running it was Thriller that ended up in a SF's park as Zonga.
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Fujikyu highland hospital walkthrough!

Tue May 23, 2006 8:44 pm

Has anyone got any pictures of information on this ride?
It looks amazing and very scary!
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P.s not sure if this has been asked before in another topic but htought id give it a blast!
P.P.s its basically a walkthrough of a haunted mental hospital that uses live actors and is thirty minutes long and the bigges one in the world spaning 500 meters and four stories i think :D !
 
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Tue May 23, 2006 8:52 pm

ive read a full review about it somewhere, record holder if im right, TPR went there but didn ride it :( well, when i go to japan, im riding it... that could just be my best way to settle my urge for asian horrors :D
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